Halloween Horror Nights 28 General Discussion

[Lucky Planet]

Yeah, but are any of the places that aren't the main room and hallway actually interesting?

What's your facade? A movie poster?

What perspective is the house told from? Are guests bystanders or are they the victim? If they're the victim, then we wouldn't know about the psychiatrist. If we're bystanders, how is the visually "opened" so we can see everything?

And how will the "one killer" thing work here? Unmasked killers work in a house because the CLOTHING is identical between performers. You can't do that with Split. So masks? Quality masks are expensive, and you need at least 40. Then, what do you do with that investment?

I mean, let's think about this like designers...

HHN doesnt always have interesting rooms, i could think of 5 houses in the past that had average rooms.
the rooms in split would work well for scares. if they could make the Exorcist and they could make Halloween work, i see no reason why this couldn't work. the scenes in Halloween weren't the most amazing, the movie might be amazing and the actors were amazing, but the rooms were rather simple. also outside of the traps, the SAW house was also rather simple. the rooms weren't the greatest. (They could even reuse some of the hallways and some of the rooms from SAW and Halloween to make the split house

the Facade can be the zoo gates, could be the entrance to his house, again, this is not a problem for HHN. if they built an entrance to the place where he lives that would be cool enough

are we the bystanders or the victims, I dont know, aren't we ALWAYS the bystanders in every house? (Technically speaking) there will obviously be girls hired to play the girls in the movie. so we would be bystanders.

how was everything opened for us to see in walking dead? how does the walking dead house make any sense? how do we go from the prison to the Governor's room to the forest? were we the bystanders in walking dead? or victims? if we were victims how did we see things that no one could see, like Penny?

How can we be victims if Penny was something that was hidden and something that ONLY Michonne could see? how did we get to see the Governor tanks? that was hidden from everyone else. if we go by that "victim or bystander" logic then the walking dead houses are the worst houses to ever exist because of how much they showed. and the weird transitions from setting to setting.

The actors, how hard is it to get a bunch of tall and skinny guys to shave their heads? does it matter if they look different in the darkness of a HHN house?

Did it matter that the actresses in the Exorcist looked different from each other? were they wearing masks? they didnt hire identical twins for Exorcist, did people care?

if you take a bunch of guys that have the same body frame and shave them then dress them up, I doubt anyone would be upset they dont look identical.
Besides the guy in the movie changes clothes like 5 times. the actors wouln't even be wearing the same thing over and over. there would be like 5 changes.

if the exorcist and walking dead worked, if they were good houses, this movie could TOTALLY be made into a house without much trouble. the questions you had for me are things that apply to previous HHN houses and those are things the HHN team already tackled in the past.

Horrors of Blumhouse had nothing but hallways and that house worked. it became some people's favorite house even.

I dont get how split would be any different. or why it wouldn't work. Split has much more to work with than Exorcist

 

[Kooks]

HHN doesnt always have interesting rooms, i could think of 5 houses in the past that had average rooms.
the rooms in split would work well for scares. if they could make the Exorcist and they could make Halloween work, i see no reason why this couldn't work. the scenes in Halloween weren't the most amazing, the movie might be amazing and the actors were amazing, but the rooms were rather simple. also outside of the traps, the SAW house was also rather simple. the rooms weren't the greatest. (They could even reuse some of the hallways and some of the rooms from SAW and Halloween to make the split house

the Facade can be the zoo gates, could be the entrance to his house, again, this is not a problem for HHN. if they built an entrance to the place where he lives that would be cool enough

are we the bystanders or the victims, I dont know, aren't we ALWAYS the bystanders in every house? (Technically speaking) there will obviously be girls hired to play the girls in the movie. so we would be bystanders.

how was everything opened for us to see in walking dead? how does the walking dead house make any sense? how do we go from the prison to the Governor's room to the forest? were we the bystanders in walking dead? or victims? if we were victims how did we see things that no one could see, like Penny?

How can we be victims if Penny was something that was hidden and something that ONLY Michonne could see? how did we get to see the Governor tanks? that was hidden from everyone else. if we go by that "victim or bystander" logic then the walking dead houses are the worst houses to ever exist because of how much they showed. and the weird transitions from setting to setting.

The actors, how hard is it to get a bunch of tall and skinny guys to shave their heads? does it matter if they look different in the darkness of a HHN house?

Did it matter that the actresses in the Exorcist looked different from each other? were they wearing masks? they didnt hire identical twins for Exorcist, did people care?

if you take a bunch of guys that have the same body frame and shave them then dress them up, I doubt anyone would be upset they dont look identical.
Besides the guy in the movie changes clothes like 5 times. the actors wouln't even be wearing the same thing over and over. there would be like 5 changes.

if the exorcist and walking dead worked, if they were good houses, this movie could TOTALLY be made into a house without much trouble. the questions you had for me are things that apply to previous HHN houses and those are things the HHN team already tackled in the past.

Horrors of Blumhouse had nothing but hallways and that house worked. it became some people's favorite house even.

I dont get how split would be any different. or why it wouldn't work. Split has much more to work with than Exorcist

I think the difference between the Exorcist / Halloween and Split is that there is actually a conventional horror element to The Exorcist / Halloween, whereas Split focuses mostly on psychological fear which would not translate well in a maze. The majority of people would not enjoy a house where a bald guy is the only scareactor. Same reason I don't think Get Out would work either. I think they would be cool mazes for some, but not the majority.

 

[The Storyteller]

honestly? i would be down for another HoB IF and ONLY IF it is entirely betty gabriel themed

 

[horrornights789]

Split & Get Out would be good maze sections, but would be pretty stretched out to fit a full on maze. I feel like Split will go in Blumhouse with Ouija & HDD, although it could go either way that or Get Out.

 

[Kooks]

Split & Get Out would be good maze sections, but would be pretty stretched out to fit a full on maze. I think Split will go in Blumhouse though, idk why.

It would be cool to see the sunken place. A pitch black hallway with the therapist talking and spoon sound effect on loop, with a projector on the roof/wall of the light source or something getting further away. I feel like Universal could pull it off and create a crazy illusion.

 

[Lucky Planet]

I think the difference between the Exorcist / Halloween and Split is that there is actually a conventional horror element to The Exorcist / Halloween, whereas Split focuses mostly on psychological fear which would not translate well in a maze. The majority of people would not enjoy a house where a bald guy is the only scareactor. Same reason I don't think Get Out would work either. I think they would be cool mazes for some, but not the majority.

i Get that point but then this is going to make Stranger Things really suck. (unless the house has the monster in every room)

Stranger Things is not even technically a horror property. it has horror elements but most of the episodes in Stranger things weren't even horror.

also if that's the case then why did we get houses like Doomsday, that was a straight out Action movie, not even horror at all lol.

It is not that i am defending Split because I Know very well that Split will probably never going to be a house at HHN.
I was just entertaining the idea of that being a house, and i was replying to Legacy's questions (it was fun to answer his questions and think of ways to make Split into a house)

Im not naive and I know Split is probably not gonna be a house. this was just fun speculation.
I was just saying, Split could perfectly be a good house with good sets, different rooms and bald actors dressed like the character.

it "Could" Work, It would work MUCH better than GET OUT. would work better than having another purge

 

[ThemeParks4Life]

Split has enough to fill an entire house IMO. Whether it'd get repetitive is another debate. Get Out doesn't have enough for a full house.

 

[Imperius]

I don’t see how Split could fill a house at all. It works best in a best of house for a scene or two.

 

[horrornights789]

i Get that point but then this is going to make Stranger Things really suck. (unless the house has the monster in every room)

Stranger Things is not even technically a horror property. it has horror elements but most of the episodes in Stranger things weren't even horror.

Stranger Things has a ton of memorable locations though, whether or not they make it in the house is another topic though. But also, Split has 1 antagonist(The Beast) and you could potentially use the teenage girl as a one off scare. Stranger Things has the Demogorgan, and one off scares like the scientists, Papa, Chief Hopper, Joyce with the lights, hazmat suit guys, and maybe Steve. Plus there’s the possible special effects scenes they could do with Eleven

 

[Lucky Planet]

Stranger Things has a ton of memorable locations though, whether or not they make it in the house is another topic though. But also, Split has 1 antagonist(The Beast) and you could potentially use the teenage girl as a one off scare. Stranger Things has the Demogorgan, and one off scares like the scientists, Papa, Chief Hopper, Joyce with the lights, hazmat suit guys, and maybe Steve. Plus there’s the possible special effects scenes they could do with Eleven

When I mentioned stranger things i was not talking about the characters but i was replying to Kooks about the horror aspeect.
Stranger things has a lot of great characters and sets but it is not really a horror property.


also with Split you could have the woman personality, and the guy that kidnaps the girls personality and you could even use the little kid personality. those combined with the beast are 4, I know there were a couple more.

I know the house would be repetitive in the actors, but so was the Exorcist and so was The Shining
thats my point.

 

[Imperius]

But exorcist and shining are horror classics. Split? Nah.

 

[horrornights789]

also with Split you could have the woman personality, and the guy that kidnaps the girls personality and you could even use the little kid personality. those combined with the beast are 4, I know there were a couple more.

I know the house would be repetitive in the actors, but so was the Exorcist and so was The Shining
thats my point.

Oh true about the other personalities. I think Patricia(was that her name?) could be a good scare too, but if Universal does bring Split into Blumhouse they’ll probably give it the Sinister treatment, where it’s very compact and fits as many characters as possible. Would probably be the bunker room with Patricia & teenage girl, then hallway with the cut open girl and multiple Beasts. Maybe the psychiatrist’s dead body

 

[Lucky Planet]

if they do a Split part of the house the Beast is a must. specially if they can get a really big strong guy. that and Patricia would make for awesome scares

 

[Lucky Planet]

But exorcist and shining are horror classics. Split? Nah.

is purge a classic? we've had purge 3 times, what about Walking dead?

Split has more sets and more characters than The Exorcist. regardless of quality. We are not talking about quality here. Im merely saying that the personalities of the character in Split alone are enough to make a full house work.
What is the problem with having a bunch of bald dudes scaring you in a house.


Wasn't THAT the entire point behind the HAVOC houses? HAVOC literally was nothing but bald dudes (And some ladies) wearing the same military clothing in a house were all the rooms looked the same.....

Havoc LITERALLY does what a split house would do,.... Legacy said "lets think like HHN designers" but Universal already had a house full of bald men wearing the same outfits in rooms that looked the same from each other.... the Split house writes itself lol.

Universal could literally just remake the original HAVOC house and just name it SPLIT

 

[horrornights789]

Curious to see if the Poltergeist house is gonna be like Halloween(24) where it’s set in the 1st one with nods to the others or if it’ll more of a culmination of the whole franchise. Expecting some big sets and special effects though since it’s going in it’s own SS.

 

[Legacy]

The actors, how hard is it to get a bunch of tall and skinny guys to shave their heads? does it matter if they look different in the darkness of a HHN house?

Did it matter that the actresses in the Exorcist looked different from each other? were they wearing masks? they didnt hire identical twins for Exorcist, did people care?

if you take a bunch of guys that have the same body frame and shave them then dress them up, I doubt anyone would be upset they dont look identical.
Besides the guy in the movie cha
I dont get how split would be any different.

I want to come back to this, partially because I've already addressed it but also because it touches on some of the "psychology" of haunts.

Exorcist and Shining, sure, had multiple people playing the same "face" characters. However, it works because they are all wearing the same costume: a sweater or a nightgown. They're also wearing a wig (Jack Torrence) or makeup (Reagan) that HIDES performers' facial differences. Basically, there's so many similarities at a glance (which is really all you get) that it feels like the same person.

Split doesn't allow that. Different costumes between each of the Davids emphasize that it's a different person. The lack of makeup and hair for him will, in the same glance that helped Jack and Regan, devestate the effect in Split.

You bring up Havoc, and you inadvertently prove my point. They all had shaved heads in Havoc, and they also wore the same costume (black pants and an undershirt). It was also blatantly obvious it was all different people. Split, if it ever appears, would ONLY work if there's only sporadic appearances. And then, who cares?

 

[johnathanm]

@Legacy Have you worked on the A&D team for HHN (Or another haunt) or does your understanding of the event stem from somewhere else ?

 

[Lucky Planet]

I want to come back to this, partially because I've already addressed it but also because it touches on some of the "psychology" of haunts.

Exorcist and Shining, sure, had multiple people playing the same "face" characters. However, it works because they are all wearing the same costume: a sweater or a nightgown. They're also wearing a wig (Jack Torrence) or makeup (Reagan) that HIDES performers' facial differences. Basically, there's so many similarities at a glance (which is really all you get) that it feels like the same person.

Split doesn't allow that. Different costumes between each of the Davids emphasize that it's a different person. The lack of makeup and hair for him will, in the same glance that helped Jack and Regan, devestate the effect in Split.

You bring up Havoc, and you inadvertently prove my point. They all had shaved heads in Havoc, and they also wore the same costume (black pants and an undershirt). It was also blatantly obvious it was all different people. Split, if it ever appears, would ONLY work if there's only sporadic appearances. And then, who cares?

I know how you can solve the problem with Split and the bald people looking different. you make the house a littler darker and you apply some make up on the actors to look similar (Just minimal make up to make them look tired, maybe some bags under the eyes, a little bit of make up could work.) make them look a little bit sickly and tired. the right amount of make up could make the actors look similar.

Dracula in 2009 was dark. I dont mean pitch black like Dead Exposure but just with low light. HHN has had this before as well. houses that had low lighting. It wouldn't be anything new to HHN.

I think people will realize who the bald guys are in the house, people are not that dumb. specially if theres a queue video with the trailer. I Don't think having different actors playing the guy would be that much of a problem knowing what the movie is from and having the house with lower ligthing than usual. I still think it could work. It might not be the greatest house they have ever done but I think it would be decent.

This wouldn't be the first time different scareactors play the same role, the same person. the houses are already so dark that most people don't pay that much attention. the actor would come out of the boo hole and scare and go back, i doubt people would even pay that much attention. specially if you hire girls to be the distraction because everyone would be focusing on the girls calling for your help before the bald guy would come out for the scare.

The personalities already have things like wearing a hoodie or glasses or dirt on the face that makes them look a tiny bit different. he doesnt even look exactly the same personality from personality.
The Wardrobe would definitely play a big part in making people understand the difference in actors

if they add a queue video and make people see what the movie is about and make people see this guy before going to the house in his different outfits, people would Definitely understand whats going on in the house. definitely

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

@Legacy Have you worked on the A&D team for HHN (Or another haunt) or does your understanding of the event stem from somewhere else ?

He was a scareactor at least twice, probably more than that.

 

[Legacy]

@Legacy Have you worked on the A&D team for HHN (Or another haunt) or does your understanding of the event stem from somewhere else ?

I scared in 2002 and 2010 (also cast in 2003/2011), have designed a couple of local haunts (RIP - Lost Legends), and have a unbridled passion for the creative/production side of haunts. I also have a number of friends who have worked on both sides of HHN (I met my wife when she was my costumer, and then she became a lighting tech). I'll admit, I'm no pro. But I've done it as a hobby enough, seen enough backstage, and talked it with enough experienced people I can at least sound like I know what I'm talking about. But it's a hobby.