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Effects of Coronavirus (COVID-19) On Entertainment & Tourism Industry

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I'm not sure if it will change forever, but it will certainly be super different until a vaccine is available. I'm not convinced the theme park business is even tenable until potent therapeutics are approved and wildly available.

I think Universal's strategy of (so far) not stopping construction and pushing for EU to still open in 2023 could possibly lead to the balance of power in Orlando shifting even further, especially if Disney does end up cutting projects that aren't already well into construction. But that also depends on the company continuing construction along with the economy bouncing back by 2023, which of course is a complete wild card.
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The thing is, Comcast can afford to take that gamble and are angling to take a real decisive bite out of Walt Disney World's business, especially as the needless complexity of vacation planning makes visiting the resort less than enviable.
 
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The thing is, Comcast can afford to take that gamble and are angling to take a real decisive bite out of Walt Disney World's business, especially as the needless complexity of vacation planning makes visiting the resort less than enviable.
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No doubt. It’s similar to when UOR built WWOHP in the middle of a recession. By the time things started to stabilize, they had the hottest ticket in town and it too Disney a good 7 years to get anything remotely as hot.

different circumstances now, but could end up being a similar situation.
 
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All the airlines providing package holidays over here say they're aiming for 17th June to start flying again.
 
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If the season can ever get off the ground, the MLB is looking at radical changes to this season. It would have them scraping the American League and National League and having every team play from their spring training homes (without crowds to start out), meaning the Grapefruit and Cactus leagues from Spring Training would carry over to the regular season.
 
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randompixel said:
All the airlines providing package holidays over here say they're aiming for 17th June to start flying again.
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Nope, don't like that.

upcoming flights.JPG
 
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Nick said:
If the season can ever get off the ground, the MLB is looking at radical changes to this season. It would have them scraping the American League and National League and having every team play from their spring training homes (without crowds to start out), meaning the Grapefruit and Cactus leagues from Spring Training would carry over to the regular season.
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Under the circumstances, not a bad idea. It's better than putting all the teams on a couple of sites in Arizona. This way the teams still have access to their own spring training sites/sports medicine facilities, and familiar surroundings. And having a different alignment than the regular seasons, for a change in pace, might really help hype TV ratings. Heck, the more I think of this, the better I like it.
 
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Here is something the theme parks could do for the indoor shows and stores.

www.post-gazette.com

Researchers studying ultraviolet technology to dampen virus

Far-UVC light technology is targeting the removal of viruses and bacteria in hospitals and other indoor public spaces.
www.post-gazette.com www.post-gazette.com
 
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Disneyhead said:
Here is something the theme parks could do for the indoor shows and stores.

www.post-gazette.com

Researchers studying ultraviolet technology to dampen virus

Far-UVC light technology is targeting the removal of viruses and bacteria in hospitals and other indoor public spaces.
www.post-gazette.com www.post-gazette.com
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All of this national & worldwide research going into CV treatment & prevention has the potential to create a new wave of overall disease containment/prevention measures. That is good....I'm continually of the opinion that the new high tech available, and the mass clinical testing, is going to create treatments/solutions to CV on a significantly earlier time frame than the pessimists in society and the media are thinking.....And mass testing/mapping/effective quarantine could be the short term solution. The present quarantine in this country isn't all that effective since it doesn't truly isolate a person and prevent them from infecting family/friends etc., thus creating more spread. They really need to do what they did with Tuberculosis when it was such a dangerous disease, namely temporarily quarantining CV positive people in special CV health facilities until they're free from CV..............and then the parks can open again.
 
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^ I have recently mused about a UV rimmed brim hat that would have a 12” downward effective range. Krazy kat ideas.
 
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No surprise, but finally the 40,000 members of Disney's STCU unions announced they are being furloughed officially on the 19th.
 
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Teebin said:
^ I have recently mused about a UV rimmed brim hat that would have a 12” downward effective range. Krazy kat ideas.
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www.bbc.com

Can you kill coronavirus with UV light?

There’s only one type of UV that can reliably inactivate Covid-19 – and it’s extremely dangerous.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com

TL;DR version. UVA = nope. UVB = we don't know. UVC = only if you wanted to damage people around you :D
 
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www.espn.com

Sources: XFL staff laid off, no plans for 2021

The XFL's chief operating officer, Jeffery Pollock, said Friday that the league is suspending operations and all employees have been laid off, sources told ESPN.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

The first domino?

Opinions of the product notwithstanding, there was no discussion about not having a 2021 season prior to this.
 
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I don’t think you can compare the XFL with anything else in the entertainment industry. It was a relaunch that didn’t even get a full season. Just really bad timing. Don’t worry though, Vince will be fine.
 
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fryoj said:
www.espn.com

Sources: XFL staff laid off, no plans for 2021

The XFL's chief operating officer, Jeffery Pollock, said Friday that the league is suspending operations and all employees have been laid off, sources told ESPN.
www.espn.com www.espn.com

The first domino?

Opinions of the product notwithstanding, there was no discussion about not having a 2021 season prior to this.
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They would probably have another season if COVID didn’t hit. I doubt they would’ve had many more seasons.

I’m a person that tries to pay attention to the world and I had no idea the XFL had a prior season. I just don’t think the league is executing well-enough to survive.
 
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I don’t think you can compare the XFL with anything else in the entertainment industry. It was a relaunch that didn’t even get a full season. Just really bad timing. Don’t worry though, Vince will be fine.
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What about all of the players and team staff that are out of a job?
 
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So SNL is on tonight.... this should be interesting. My red wine I'm drinking won't let me stay up likely but this should be interesting nonetheless
 
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Mad Dog said:
All of this national & worldwide research going into CV treatment & prevention has the potential to create a new wave of overall disease containment/prevention measures. That is good....I'm continually of the opinion that the new high tech available, and the mass clinical testing, is going to create treatments/solutions to CV on a significantly earlier time frame than the pessimists in society and the media are thinking.....And mass testing/mapping/effective quarantine could be the short term solution. The present quarantine in this country isn't all that effective since it doesn't truly isolate a person and prevent them from infecting family/friends etc., thus creating more spread. They really need to do what they did with Tuberculosis when it was such a dangerous disease, namely temporarily quarantining CV positive people in special CV health facilities until they're free from CV..............and then the parks can open again.
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So this sounds quite ridiculous - forcibly take people that 'someone' deems as being CV positive and quarantine them offsite somewhere with all the other CV positive people. Did you miss the part where there are MANY people who show no signs but are CV positive and are shedding virus? Did you also miss the part where the tests that are being used to determine whether someone is CV positive have MANY false positives and MANY false negatives?
So your solution is to take only those people who have obvious signs of CV or 'tested' positive with known questionable testing and quarantine them all somewhere against their will?
Well hello there comrade, Stalin would be proud!
 
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fryoj said:
What about all of the players and team staff that are out of a job?
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Many of them are getting signed to NFL teams.
 
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So this sounds quite ridiculous - forcibly take people that 'someone' deems as being CV positive and quarantine them offsite somewhere with all the other CV positive people. Did you miss the part where there are MANY people who show no signs but are CV positive and are shedding virus? Did you also miss the part where the tests that are being used to determine whether someone is CV positive have MANY false positives and MANY false negatives?
So your solution is to take only those people who have obvious signs of CV or 'tested' positive with known questionable testing and quarantine them all somewhere against their will?
Well hello there comrade, Stalin would be proud!
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Hey, you have your 'opinion' , fine, you're free to voice it. After all, this is just a forum of 'opinions'.Many health professionals have voiced this quarantine idea, and it was used on some of the first arrivals from China that they housed on military bases at the end of Jan. & Feb., but then they got away from doing it. it's not something I invented. Some officials are saying the self quarantine at home doesn't work well because it just creates new clusters of infection when the quarantined person interacts with family & friends, and then they (family and friends) interact with their family and friends, and so on.....and ................Bottom line, though, you really don't have to be snarky about a post with that type/tone of remark. .
 
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Hey, you have your 'opinion' , fine, you're free to voice it. After all, this is just a forum of 'opinions'.Many health professionals have voiced this quarantine idea, and it was used on some of the first arrivals from China that they housed on military bases at the end of Jan. & Feb., but then they got away from doing it. it's not something I invented. Some officials are saying the self quarantine at home doesn't work well because it just creates new clusters of infection when the quarantined person interacts with family & friends, and then they (family and friends) interact with their family and friends, and so on.....and ................Bottom line, though, you really don't have to be snarky about a post with that type/tone of remark. .
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Sorry if i offended, but i am trying to wake you up.
yes i have seen your viewpoint advocated by some in the medical community, that does not legitimize it.
That solution did work during tuberculosis outbreaks, but it was much easier to determine who was sick and who was not.
CV 19 does not always present itself with identifiable symptoms, which in and of itself, negates the viability of your solution.
You would lock some up while others freely spread the disease.
Please do not so easily advocate the removal of personal freedoms by an overreaching government.
Once freedoms are gone, it is very difficult to recover them.
There are still many Japanese Americans from WWII who can attest to the personal tragedies created from such simplistic solutions.
 
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