The Old HHN 30 Speculation Thread (2020)

[BoSoxFan1022]

 

[shiekra38]

It was finally put into a context that made sense to you, and I’m glad to see that.

The patriarchy never stood a chance

 

[RoseBlight]

A Stuart Gordon house would be beyond perfect. Truly lost one of the greats there

Going back and watching Re-Animator and From Beyond recently made me realize how great a Stuart Gordon anthology house could be. Neither of those films have enough content to fill their own house imo but put them together and you'd have one hell of an experience.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

There is something Pumpkin related, coming. Whether it's Nathaniel Crowe, or in some other facet, it's coming. :ninja:

I wonder WHERE this particular Pumpkin house was located.... like... in terms of story and theme.

 

[Morganxrose]

Although I'm still hesitant to hype myself up (as a New York state resident living through this challenging time right now), this current iteration of the speculation map really gives me a positive feeling in a tough time. I wanted to just give my thoughts on the current house speculation:

A. Beetlejuice: To see this become less & less of a rumor and more & more a likelihood for this year makes me smile every time I see it talked about. While Ghostbusters mildly let me down last year, I gave it a lot of props for the library and city streets portions of the walkthrough. A big fallback for me were the puppets & large-scale aspects of the house (Stay Puft and the Terror Dogs, in particular). So with Beetlejuice will come the inevitable question: How will the Sandworms be presented? I feel like that could be a make or break component, with the added difficulty of that scene taking place in a much harder environment to capture. However, the "ready to scare" Maitlands' masks should be awesome to see in person, as will Beetlejuice himself.

B. The Bride: Billie Eilish having a house on her own didn't really strike me as an exciting thing (less because of her music - more because I've seen footage of the Alice house and even as a fan of his music, was underwhelmed). But utilizing her tracks or original score to guide us through this follow-up to Universal Monsters feels like a major win-win situation to me. I hope it really embraces the concept and leans heavily into territory that both younger and older event-goers can appreciate. The Bride was my favorite redesign of last year's monsters, I hope it's the same version here. Seeing more of Drac's brides, as well as gender-bender versions of other monsters could be a fun route too.

C. Bedtime Stories: I was happy to see Us hit the event last year, though a bit sad to see this speculated original shelved in the process. Without knowing what the name "Bedtime Stories" fully entails, all I recall is the "Tooth Fairy-esque" creature/entity teased last year. I'm very intrigued by the mystique of this character and title!

D. Terra Cruentus: Another exciting original, which lends itself to some grand-scale setpieces and hopefully my bois, the Body Collectors/Gentlemen! The fantasy & pseudo-medieval theming should be a unique contrast to every other house at the event. I wonder what kind of sacrifices the Terra Queen has in store for her return? And I still wonder if the rumored "undead earthquake" house applies to the events leading up to TQ's return, the unholy reunion of our world and hers? Probably not, but it seems like a decent way to work this earthquake concept in without giving it a house of it's own.

E. Dungeon of Terror: MIB tent getting Dungeon of Terror feels very promising. Ho1000C converted me into a believer in this location last year. The facade can be minimalist and still immersive, while tight spaces and scenes from the original house should translate perfectly in the space given. Hoping for some reference to the Rat Lady, but I'm not sure how.

F. Secret IP: Sprung Tent secrets! These tents haven't hosted IPs in the last couple of years, the last being TCM in 2016. Could that property make a return (I wouldn't call it a traditional slasher, but I could see how that label could rule it out)? Other past properties in these tents have been Psycho (through Psycho-Path), People Under the Stairs, The Thing, Alice, Penn & Teller, Halloween, The Purge, and Insidious. I don't know how I would feel about any of those properties making a return (The Thing or Psycho would be the most intriguing to me, and this comes from a big fan of PUtS). This will probably be something big enough that Hollywood is signed onto it as well, I feel The Thing or TCM would fit that bill more than Psycho. However, I think if the speculation about Peele working on an original for Hollywood is accurate, Monkeypaw might be pushing for DaCosta's Candyman to get a spot at the event. I worry about environments like the gallery in the trailer and Candyman's lair translating to a tent worse than a soundstage, but I think the lore of Candyman still offers plenty of opportunities to make it work in a tent. My personal pipedreams for the missing IP? Creepshow (with Hollywood getting a sequel house) or a Stuart Gordon tribute/compilation, RIP my dude. :'(

G. Pumpkin Original: I want to reiterate that I would love for this to be a direct sequel to Twisted Tradition's lore. The chapel setpiece was a standout in that scarezone and the characters were all pretty fun. I see it more likely to be a totally fresh concept based loosely on that former rumored icon. Either way, I definitely expect the masks and maybe a prop or 2 from Twisted Tradition to be reused in some capacity, and that alone is enough to make this one of my most anticipated originals. Those costumes were lovely.

H. The Haunting of Hill House: Mike Flanagan has been one of my personal favorite modern directors since my first viewing of Oculus years ago (fell in love with Absentia not long after, and Gerald's Game remains one of my favorite King adaptations). It's going to make a killer house, but quality of work aside, it's just personally refreshing to see a hardworking director with a consistently great eye for horror have his work brought to Halloween Horror Nights. I suppose larger exposure through Netflix is partially to thank for this, but the show stands to offer us some eerie characters and great moments if executed right. Mr. Smiley's going to be a real treat.

I. Legendary Truth: I hope this does enough to distinguish itself from both Graveyard Games and the previous Legendary Truth. I could see this being the anniversary house if the remaining original isn't. I could see this being an "anniversary house" kind of deal for all of the Carey, OH characters that HHN has ever seen.

J. Unknown Original: I truly hope that the first house in this new location is a wild & fun anniversary house. I'm not entirely sure what else to expect here. If it's the "earthquake" rumor, I just don't know if that would translate well to anything other than a soundstage. I worry, but I'm also just excited to be walking through a new location, no matter what's there. I'd personally be gutted if I don't get to see some appearance from the Caretaker, Director, Storyteller, and Usher. However, I know the event will evolve in whatever way those in charge and the public's interest see fit.

I’m also a NY resident and Halloween Horror nights is the one thing I’ve been looking toward to throughout all this.

 

[ReelJustice]

I wonder WHERE this particular Pumpkin house was located.... like... in terms of story and theme.

:look:

 

[Brian G.]

I wonder WHERE this particular Pumpkin house was located.... like... in terms of story and theme.

Pumpkinland!

 

[shiekra38]

I wonder WHERE this particular Pumpkin house was located.... like... in terms of story and theme.

Let me guess...Carey, Ohio?

 

[mystiquephreeq]

I wonder WHERE this particular Pumpkin house was located.... like... in terms of story and theme.

If you’re asking about Crowe: 2008.His land housed Jack’s Carnival. His transformation occurs after the Carnival leaves.



This potential Pumpkin?

Where ever they wanna place it. Its not our first pumpkin theme. Pumpkinhead (scareactor not movie) made his first appearance in ST2(?). He’s reappeared several times and other variations and pumpkin themes have been used throughout the years. It can connect to a past house or zone, it can be a reworked Crowe, or it can be something entirely new.

The pumpkin is so linked to Halloween that you can take it almost anywhere.

And while Carey is a rather obvious potential location, story and theme wise...It’s anyone’s guess.

 

[Returning-The-Reaction]

Despite the use of the Bindlestiff NF font for the "Secret IP," I don't think we'll be seeing a Silence of the Lambs house this year. I'd be excited to see the property used in an official manner at the event, but unfortunately I don't think it's in the cards just yet.

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

Despite the use of the Bindlestiff NF font for the "Secret IP," I don't think we'll be seeing a Silence of the Lambs house this year. I'd be excited to see the property used in an official manner at the event, but unfortunately I don't think it's in the cards just yet.

Like I said, an SotL house might require SIF to simulate the moths.

 

[HHN Yeti Lover]

I wouldn’t be surprised to see a little Hannibal, apparently he was in the original dungeon of terror and an all night die in

 

[Legacy]

Like I said, an SotL house might require SIF to simulate the moths.

Oh? In what part of the movie does anyone walk through a cloud of moths?

 

[randomguesser]

SotL could totally work. You have the asylum, Hannibal’s cage, Buffalo Bill’s house, the ambulance scene, and the night vision scenes. Not sure if this year is it’s year though, but it’d be cool if it came.

 

[GA-MBIT]

Oh? In what part of the movie does anyone walk through a cloud of moths?

I'm more worried about the lambs. It's hard to ethically keep animals like that silent for that long.

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

Oh? In what part of the movie does anyone walk through a cloud of moths?

Touché. I’m just thinking they might need some “abstract” scenes to pad the length. But the property is unlikely anyhow.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I really, really like the rumored lineup this year, which makes me all the sadder that I don’t believe the event will occur in 2020. By the end of the summer we will see society opening up a bit, but major crowd events like sports games, concerts... and theme parks... seem unlikely to return by then. Think of HHNs tightly packed lines, it’s narrow corridors, it’s in-your-face performers, it’s SIF... it’s a uniquely bad combo. Without a vaccine or a very powerful treatment, it’s a big risk for Uni. What’s more, without a vaccine or treatment, even if Uni opens, people will still be very reluctant to attend, which may be even a bigger problem. I don’t know on what sort of margins HHN operates, but if attendance is down 30% (which seems a conservative estimate), the event may not even be profitable.

I REALLY, REALLY hope I’m wrong. I hope we have a reliable treatment. But I’m pessimistic.

And Sinema was just awesome, probably my favorite house of the last five years and maybe longer, perhaps even since 19 or 18. Montage houses, skipping between themes, are something I wish HHN did more, since it adds so much variety to a maze.

 

[TheCodeMan95]

I'm more worried about the lambs. It's hard to ethically keep animals like that silent for that long.

You've heard of HHN Bear, now get ready for HHN Lamb

 

[BBPH]

I really, really like the rumored lineup this year, which makes me all the sadder that I don’t believe the event will occur in 2020. By the end of the summer we will see society opening up a bit, but major crowd events like sports games, concerts... and theme parks... seem unlikely to return by then. Think of HHNs tightly packed lines, it’s narrow corridors, it’s in-your-face performers, it’s SIF... it’s a uniquely bad combo. Without a vaccine or a very powerful treatment, it’s a big risk for Uni. What’s more, without a vaccine or treatment, even if Uni opens, people will still be very reluctant to attend, which may be even a bigger problem. I don’t know on what sort of margins HHN operates, but if attendance is down 30% (which seems a conservative estimate), the event may not even be profitable.

I REALLY, REALLY hope I’m wrong. I hope we have a reliable treatment. But I’m pessimistic.

And Sinema was just awesome, probably my favorite house of the last five years and maybe longer, perhaps even since 19 or 18. Montage houses, skipping between themes, are something I wish HHN did more, since it adds so much variety to a maze.

Can we make this thread a little more positive stop the will it wont it happen chat? Surely this thread should to be about the planned event whether it happens or not, and then use the covid effects threads for the rest.

I don't post often but read everything and its nice to just come to the HHN threads and think about coming back in October.

Just my opinion, feel free to ignore

 

[DannyPowers]

Can we make this thread a little more positive stop the will it wont it happen chat? Surely this thread should to be about the planned event whether it happens or not, and then use the covid effects threads for the rest.

I don't post often but read everything and its nice to just come to the HHN threads and think about coming back in October.

Just my opinion, feel free to ignore

100% agree.

As for a pumpkin house in Carey, Ohio? Yah...I think I'd like that.