TRON Lightcycle Run

[belloq87]

The last chance to ride the People Mover?

So, like DL they are freshening up all the classics (IASW, people mover) and more to come. I’m also thinking a new daytime parade and maybe a new nighttime one? (Paint the night)?? TRON may still be in the cards for 22 so that would be an after holiday/spring offering to keep attendance up

I've heard some rumblings about a new nighttime parade, but insiders on Magic appear to be somewhat skeptical.

 

[JungleSkip]

Well, yeah, but I meant in the park that's actually the one turning 50.

Let's not forget that for DLK's 50th every other resort got new rides except DL lol

 

[Nick]

Every sign points to things on the road to getting substantially better next summer. I just don't see Disney holding TRON off if it's done until 2022

Please define “substantially better”

It’s not hard to be substantially better than a summer of businesses sitting closed and people sheltering at home, many having lost their jobs.

 

[JungleSkip]

Please define “substantially better”

As in "Pandemic designation is over, there's a vaccine, and things are well on their way to normal". Pushing TRON off to 2022 in that case makes no sense

 

[Nick]

As in "Pandemic designation is over, there's a vaccine, and things are well on their way to normal". Pushing TRON off to 2022 in that case makes no sense

I think you might be still being optimistic, as just because there’s a vaccine, it doesn’t mean it’s widely available first of all, and many people will refuse to take the vaccines, making masks a 6 foot rule still mandatory until we get a number that a high enough % of the US population has taken the vaccine.

Pushing Tron off I think has nothing to do with that that stuff though. People are either going to come to WDW or not next year, a new ride probably isn’t gonna change many people who still have fears minds. I also think they don’t want to spend money on new rides for awhile, but they have a decent slate of rides that they are sitting on right now. So they want to squeeze every dollar they can put of those rides by doing something like the following:

- Rat (Spring/Summer 2021)
- HarmoniUS (October 1, 2021)
- Tron (Spring/Summer 2022)
- GotG (Late Fall 2022/2023)

That allows them to use the rides that were supposed to carry them through 2021 pretty much into 2023 without even announcing anything else new.

 

[belloq87]

Let's not forget that for DLK's 50th every other resort got new rides except DL lol

Solid point.

As a WDW fan, I'm thankful, but yeah... that was a weird decision.

"Celebrate Disneyland's 50th... with new attractions at everywhere but!"

- GotG (Late Fall 2022/2023)

That allows them to use the rides that were supposed to carry them through 2021 pretty much into 2023 without even announcing anything else new.

We all know that outside factors are in play, but if Cosmic Rewind's construction goes into a sixth year, it better be the best ride Disney's ever built.

 

[joelbryant11]

The late 2022/2023 thing wouldn't be terrible for Cosmic Rewind, since it looks like 2023 is when Vol. 3 will come out as well.

You have to wonder what would be happening had they moved a little bit quicker back when the world was normal. It was announced in like 2017 and we didn't see substantial progress until 2019. There's no reason that both of these should be missing 2021 even with the pandemic. Tron is extra mind-blowing since it's a copy.

 

[Tobias]

You have to wonder what would be happening had they moved a little bit quicker back when the world was normal. It was announced in like 2017 and we didn't see substantial progress until 2019. There's no reason that both of these should be missing 2021 even with the pandemic. Tron is extra mind-blowing since it's a copy.

What happened was quite the combination.

Waiting for Shanghai's exclusivity deal on Tron to end. + The Pandemic pausing things. + Disney's usual drawn out construction speed.
Even with Disney getting the picture that they need to add new attractions, they're still dragging their feet on building them.

 

[JoeCamel]

I think you might be still being optimistic, as just because there’s a vaccine, it doesn’t mean it’s widely available first of all, and many people will refuse to take the vaccines, making masks a 6 foot rule still mandatory until we get a number that a high enough % of the US population has taken the vaccine.

Pushing Tron off I think has nothing to do with that that stuff though. People are either going to come to WDW or not next year, a new ride probably isn’t gonna change many people who still have fears minds. I also think they don’t want to spend money on new rides for awhile, but they have a decent slate of rides that they are sitting on right now. So they want to squeeze every dollar they can put of those rides by doing something like the following:

- Rat (Spring/Summer 2021)
- HarmoniUS (October 1, 2021)
- Tron (Spring/Summer 2022)
- GotG (Late Fall 2022/2023)

That allows them to use the rides that were supposed to carry them through 2021 pretty much into 2023 without even announcing anything else new.

I'm never one to pass on a money angle for the mouse so I would think that will cause a bunch of APs to reconsider renewing right now. The bounceback offer is not all that much usually and they may want to restructure the AP offering at WDW

 

[Parkscope Joe]

...HarmonioUS and Rat?

Considering how they advertised the Millennium I fully expect them to tie in SWGE, Railway (remember it was open for like two weeks before COVID shut downs, it's still "new"), new nighttime MK fireworks, Rat, Harmonious, and Tron into the 50th. That's still a pretty good line up even if it's missing some things that are canceled/delayed now.

A 15 month celebration is a given (Oct 21 to end of Dec 22) since DLR’s 60th was 16 months. Whether they try to tack three months on to the beginning is up in the air.

Summer 22 openings would still fall in the “something for the 50th” window and help cover two summers of demand-driving openings between Rat, Tron, Guardians, and to a lesser degree people who haven’t been on MMRR or RotR yet.

Remember, all these things are timed to drive GP vacation bookings as things to put in marketing material. Construction speed is the last thing they think about.

October 1, 2021 to December 31, 2022 (or through the first full weekend in January 2023), book it.

 

[Disneyhead]

And EPCOT's 40th starts Oct 1, 2022.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

And EPCOT's 40th starts Oct 1, 2022.

There you go. But I gotta say, 5 years of construction is some serious BS.

 

[Disneyhead]

There you go. But I gotta say, 5 years of construction is some serious BS.

Yeah, they have been having hella issues with their EPCOT projects. After they started tearing apart Energy, they realized the building was in such bad shape they should have razed it and done a ground up build. Then over at Space 220 someone backed a forklift into the giant glass wall they had already built the building around. Then the whole spine thing.

I can't see myself in that park until at least 2023.

 

[Mad Dog]

Yeah, they have been having hella issues with their EPCOT projects. After they started tearing apart Energy, they realized the building was in such bad shape they should have razed it and done a ground up build. Then over at Space 220 someone backed a forklift into the giant glass wall they had already built the building around. Then the whole spine thing.

I can't see myself in that park until at least 2023.

But they have lots of liquor, beer & wine areas to choose from . That should be sufficient for basic needs of most APH'ers. . :toast:

 

[Tobias]

There you go. But I gotta say, 5 years of construction is some serious BS.

While I can give Guardians the benefit of a doubt due to it being a coaster from the ground-up and the issues of trying to reuse the old UoE pavilion, for Tron it's downright silly it's taking this long for a clone. (Even with waiting for the exclusivity to end with Shanghai.) Especially when in the same timeframe, Uni has already built one big coaster from the ground up and is about to open a SECOND one. Both of which having a substantial amount of theming in them as well.

Yeah, they have been having hella issues with their EPCOT projects. After they started tearing apart Energy, they realized the building was in such bad shape they should have razed it and done a ground up build. Then over at Space 220 someone backed a forklift into the giant glass wall they had already built the building around. Then the whole spine thing.

I can't see myself in that park until at least 2023.

I haven't been paying too much attention to the Space 220 project, so what's this spine thing?

 

[Disneyhead]

While I can give Guardians the benefit of a doubt due to it being a coaster from the ground-up and the issues of trying to reuse the old UoE pavilion, for Tron it's downright silly it's taking this long for a clone. (Even with waiting for the exclusivity to end with Shanghai.) Especially when in the same timeframe, Uni has already built one big coaster from the ground up and is about to open a SECOND one. Both of which having a substantial amount of theming in them as well.



I haven't been paying too much attention to the Space 220 project, so what's this spine thing?

The spine project is the center section of the old future world (where the Communicore/fountain of nations was). It's suppose to have a 3 story tall festival center with a park-like roof top area, a Moana wet play area, and some other things (Starbucks?) I have already forgotton. Right now it looks a little like the Death Valley.

 

[Nick]

Yeah, they have been having hella issues with their EPCOT projects. After they started tearing apart Energy, they realized the building was in such bad shape they should have razed it and done a ground up build. Then over at Space 220 someone backed a forklift into the giant glass wall they had already built the building around. Then the whole spine thing.

I can't see myself in that park until at least 2023.

I’m glad they didn’t raze UoE though, even if it cost Disney big time. I don’t trust modern Disney enough to believe that they wouldn’t have replaced a rather unique architectural building with a bland box.

 

[SpyderDan]

From top to bottom, Disney just seems like such a mess as a company. It's so funny that Universal has built an incredible looking coaster practically over night and these two overhyped attractions won't open for another two years at least. Iger saw the writing on the wall I'm sure, that's why he jumped ship.

 

[Nick]

From top to bottom, Disney just seems like such a mess as a company. It's so funny that Universal has built an incredible looking coaster practically over night and these two overhyped attractions won't open for another two years at least. Iger saw the writing on the wall I'm sure, that's why he jumped ship.

Iger was supposed to leave in 2015. He was on his way out anyway. Once he saw COVID coming though, he ditched.

 

[SpyderDan]

Iger was supposed to leave in 2015. He was on his way out anyway. Once he saw COVID coming though, he ditched.

I had not heard that, but either way they look like a mess company wide, especially in regards to construction when their chief rival put a coaster up with no problem at all. I won't be spending any money passes for a long time.