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Epcot (General Discussion)

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Magic Feather said:
There is a strong internal desire to do Moana exactly as originally intended.
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I mean, it's practically a landscaping project with water features and an extended pathway. It's not like they're building a new pavilion.
 
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Alicia said:
I mean, it's practically a landscaping project with water features and an extended pathway. It's not like they're building a new pavilion.
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Yeah, demolishing the building will cost more money.
 
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I can't imagine -- at least relative to other things -- that the Moana project would be too terribly expensive. Just basically some landscaping and water features.

ETA: Or what @Alicia said!
 
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Alicia said:
I mean, it's practically a landscaping project with water features and an extended pathway. It's not like they're building a new pavilion.
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belloq87 said:
I can't imagine -- at least relative to other things -- that the Moana project would be too terribly expensive. Just basically some landscaping and water features.

ETA: Or what @Alicia said!
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Yes, glorified splash pad with rockwork from the sounds of it

And interactive stuff we've seen around at other parks
 
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It's still insane to think that with how large the Innoventions building is, this was what is replacing an entire HALF of it. You can't convince me there couldn't have been some sort of outdoor Moana flat ride to go in this space at the very least.
 
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This might not necessarily be for an Imagination redo (and it might not even still be on the table if it was), but...

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Can't say I'm a fan of that giant rounded snout. Looks like a creature from THE GOOD DINOSAUR more than Figment.

Don't mess with perfection.
 
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belloq87 said:
This might not necessarily be for an Imagination redo (and it might not even still be on the table if it was), but...

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Can't say I'm a fan of that giant rounded snout. Looks like a creature from THE GOOD DINOSAUR more than Figment.

Don't mess with perfection.
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He looks like Fred Flintstone's Dino

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Yep.

I'll pass.
 
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Holy sh!t leave Figment alone. His snout is his most distinguishing feature!

Well, also wings...

And colors...
 
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It’s for a VR thing, not the ride. Also, it’s not even the final design. These doc shorts were filmed awhile ago.

It’s kind of like those Marvel comics they did with the story of Dreamfinder. They created new appearance styles for that and it also had nothing to do with the ride.
 
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Well, that's good. As long as "classic" Figment remains the one we see in the park, I'm fine with variants in other media.
 
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belloq87 said:
This might not necessarily be for an Imagination redo (and it might not even still be on the table if it was), but...

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New Look for Figment Previewed in "One Day at Disney Short" on Disney+

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Can't say I'm a fan of that giant rounded snout. Looks like a creature from THE GOOD DINOSAUR more than Figment.

Don't mess with perfection.
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That's Figment's cousin Fogmont
 
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This video has popped up in a couple other threads, but I figured it might as well also be shared in here, since the first section is talking about some of the (very broad, nebulous) ideas shaping the overhaul...


I'm not terribly comforted, but I do believe these Imagineers when they say the park means something to them and that they want to preserve its unique "personality." I just question the limitations and dictates imposed on them from above.
 
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belloq87 said:
This video has popped up in a couple other threads, but I figured it might as well also be shared in here, since the first section is talking about some of the (very broad, nebulous) ideas shaping the overhaul...


I'm not terribly comforted, but I do believe these Imagineers when they say the park means something to them and that they want to preserve its unique "personality." I just question the limitations and dictates imposed on them from above.
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I threw-up in my mouth when Mellissa mentioned that construction walls where progress walls and need to be enjoyed.
 
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"Fans of Epcot will love to know that Leave a Legacy will be..."

Using the words "fans of Epcot" and "Leave A Legacy" together in a positive way shows how little they know about the "fans of Epcot"
 
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belloq87 said:
This video has popped up in a couple other threads, but I figured it might as well also be shared in here, since the first section is talking about some of the (very broad, nebulous) ideas shaping the overhaul...


I'm not terribly comforted, but I do believe these Imagineers when they say the park means something to them and that they want to preserve its unique "personality." I just question the limitations and dictates imposed on them from above.
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Disney has this odd charm about them to be able to talk about a fountain for 15 minutes and make you think it's incredible

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I threw-up in my mouth when Mellissa mentioned that construction walls where progress walls and need to be enjoyed.
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I was LITERALLY just about to post this hahaha
 
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Disney never has bothered to fix the Imagination pavilion. And with COVID tossing out most of Epcot's overhaul budget, we are probably stuck with Nigel Channing and annoying Figment (which is character is just abhorred and rock-bottom for 18 years). It is outdated and stuck with Michael Eisner era dated tackiness.

Now I am seeing the attraction itself malfunctioning to the point where the sound in one of the scenes is not playing. The animatronics have gotten stiff.

The higher ups at Disney and Imagineering have failed to take notice how awful the pavilion has gotten. ImageWorks is also outdated. The Magic Eye Theatre just plays Disney/Pixar shorts, which is nothing imaginative.
If this ride does not close after the 2020s decade is over, this shows how Disney is incompetent with how they handle their theme parks lately. They choose to prioritize other attractions like Guardians, PLAY!, Ratatouille, Frozen Ever After, and an awful Beauty and the Beast Sing Along to share with Impressions de France instead of putting priority on a pavilion that is deseparate for an update.

We understand that Disney is running things on a shoestring budget until the economy recovers and with employees getting laid off and running under limited capacity, it is hard for Disney Parks and Imagineering to get back on their feet, even more until a vaccine arrives and masks are mandatory until Spring/Summer of next year.

But it bugs me that Disney is willing to keep the Imagination pavilion dated in its 2002 form until the ride system breaks down and keeps running to the point it is unsafe by OSHA standards.
Either broken beyond repair or end of service life. (I heard rumors SeaWorld decided to finally close the Wild Arctic ride after a 24-25 year run.)

If Disney updates all of Epcot and not the Imagination pavilion (even The Seas pavilion's Nemo book-report ride), this just shows that Disney doesn't care about updating the pavilion and Bob Chapek has failed to address it at the 2019 D23 Expo.

What will it take for Imagineering/Disney to update an inferior pavilion below the latest standards and advancements in storytelling and ride technology? (I mean, the 2002 CGI on Figment is dated and pre-dates Pixar's 1990s CGI.)

How do you want the pavilion to be updated in a desire to bring in more park guests. Just keeping it dated with other attractions will steer people away from it, or won't come back if they don't have new offerings.

I rather go to Guardians, Ratatouille, and PLAY instead of Nigel Channing’s Imagination Institute, which the theming surpassed Honey I Shrunk the Audience. The tie in doesn’t work. It seriously needs to be updated by 2030.
 
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Brian G. said:
BTW - Here's the early concept idea for Future World

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Quoted from the first page.
 
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Joe said:
Quoted from the first page.
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...for what reason?
 
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