- May 26, 2010
I also have to ask the question... how confident are we that Universal even believes there is a problem that requires action?
Very true. The way the handled the multi-nights this year may be enough in their eyes.
They wont start admitting there’s a problem until they have to turn multiple people away from sell outs night after night.Very true. The way the handled the multi-nights this year may be enough in their eyes.
Congestion can be just attributed to the KidZone construction - so they may wait on that but I think it’s an inevitable problem that will need to be addressed.
This is why I asked earlier if this thread could even pinpoint a singular, main issue and the answer was a resounding "no" hah.
My question is are there really a lot of people buying FFP or Ultimate? Would love to know the numbers. I truly believe selling out of FFP before October was a financial move masquerading as a way to cut down crowds. The people it really effected are the guests flying in for a week in October. Most locals wouldn’t wait to buy them passes.
They wont start admitting there’s a problem until they have to turn multiple people away from sell outs night after night.
Sept. daily park crowds, at both Universal & Disney, according to Touring Plans lines, seemed to be slow like they were before September became busier around 2017/2018. Crowds seemed to be limited to special events like HHN, and a few days at Epcot. I have no access to internal numbers, but my guess would be that HHN crowds are primarily being fueled by locals going many multiple times on the tickets that are relatively inexpensive if you go more than 4 or 5 times. And with what happened after a lid was put on purchases, Brian's theory probably holds up. I'd bet they change the ticket structure next year to discourage that hang out segment of the HHN crowd. Sounding a lot like the problem Disneyland was having with their AP's when the park basically became a hang out after 4:00 PM most days, and just got too crowded to even move.
I saw someone with maybe a 9 or 10 year old at HHN hollywood early in the line for stranger things. There is no way you can consent to such an event as a kid. He was covering his hears the whole time and looked miserable. I think these people should just be kicked out. If you cant afford a babysitter you cant afford to go out. Some people just should have never had kids.Agreed completely. As someone with an almost 3 year old and a 9 month old that stayed with grandma at Sapphire Falls the two nights we did HHN, I was shocked to see multiple strollers. What are people thinking?
The other added benefit of an age restriction is the majority of issues I saw in lines were caused by groups of teenagers being teenagers.
Like I said the number 1 goal of universal is to push the highest profit express passes. We have people on vacation spending money on passes that are good for the majority of nights they can't even use just to "save" money at this point. If they don't purchase multi night tickets they reward universal with ever increasing express money,And that's the problem really. For the past 10 years I have to hear everyone asking to end and destroy the frequent fear pass that I personally use, that I have used for 15 years.
Everyone always asks to end ffp. Year after year. End all forms of ffp. So I hear you. It's hard to see everyone gunning for multi days passes. Either ROF or FFP. if they get rid of ffp I'm affected immensely. This conversation happens year after year.
But this year I just realized that we need at least one day per week where only single ticket guests are allowed. I don't know, but I feel like maybe Saturdays could be for single day guests maybe. At least one day?
I don't know how the crowd problems gets solved but ROF seems to be when everyone got the worst wait times.
I live in the Northeast. HHN didn’t even hit a lot of people’s rader 5 years ago, now people I would of never thought would go to a horror event are going.
The problem is HHN is not a 1 night event and they would really alienate the die hard fans. The other issue is the people who stay a week on property just for HHN.
I know a few of people who go to HHN with no intention doing the haunted houses themselves. And most of the people I’ve attended with feel they got their money’s worth doing 3-5 houses the single night they go.
Agreed. I also found myself mostly cutting through the transformers area multiple times throughout the nights I was there, and it feels dead. I think they need a zone there.The overall atmosphere needs some work. There’s just too much dead space in the back end of the park.