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Epcot is hosting the Disney 100 celebration in Florida (for some strange reason...)I admit to not knowing much about the storyline of WISH... but why Epcot instead of Magic Kingdom? Is it set in a real country?
Epcot is hosting the Disney 100 celebration in Florida (for some strange reason...)I admit to not knowing much about the storyline of WISH... but why Epcot instead of Magic Kingdom? Is it set in a real country?
That's not a good enough rationale for me!Epcot is hosting the Disney 100 celebration in Florida (for some strange reason...)
Epcot needs visitorsI admit to not knowing much about the storyline of WISH... but why Epcot instead of Magic Kingdom? Is it set in a real country?
I mean, we're talking about more than just the center gardens, which I think is very Epcot in style (and like that they synchronized so the lights on SSE coincide with the lights in the garden).I mean it's.... IDK. I just spent $165 to get in, and there is a nice urban park?
It just needs some festival food/craft beer kiosks, and gentrification of EPCOT Center will be complete.
I mean, we're talking about more than just the center gardens, which I think is very Epcot in style (and like that they synchronized so the lights on SSE coincide with the lights in the garden).
I guess now is as good of a time as any to remind people that I think Epcot has been a disgrace since roughly the early 2000's. I do want it to have it's own distinct identity from the other parks and tbh, I still think it does in most cases. The issues that I see as someone who doesn't care/never saw Epcot Center in it's glory days are spaces that are either not being used or are just a shell of what they used to be. Fix that and add another ride to WS and the park is looking good imo.
When they replaced UoE with GotG, that was essentially expanding the park since nobody rode UoE by the end of it's lifecycle. Wonders isn't pulling anyone in and an actual new ride in WS would both essentially be thought of as expansions in my eyes since both would be filling a spot that currently are not guest areas.
I think we got super lucky here based on the rumors of what this was going to be. It still needs an overhaul desperately, but what was proposed wasn’t it.Spaceship Earth has been pretty dead in the water since its announcement,
Yep.5. Remaking Soarin' Around the World to be more atmospheric and with a greater focus on the beauty of real skylines, as opposed to CGI Landmarks
Yep. And I hate to say it but Epcot “purists” … it’s time for Figment to go.6. A full teardown and ground-up build inside the Imagination pavilion
I’d be fine with a scrape or finish the playground to draw in the kids.2. Wonders of Life Building Renovation
So… dues at Bay Hill are like $5k a year, after your $15k initiation fee, and there’s at least a $1k F&B minimum on that. People always zero on the “lifestylers” but there’s a *very* large market of people in Central Florida who are more than willing to pay Pirate Pass prices to have a non-country club country club to wander around in the evenings. My first take was that the center section could use a full liquor bar - it’s surprising they haven’t leaned in on $20-25 cocktails like DCL has… and I mean legitimate, quality drinks - not a $14.99 SeaWorld Bud Light that gets surcharged and tipped up to $19.I mean it's.... IDK. I just spent $165 to get in, and there is a nice urban park?
It just needs some festival food/craft beer kiosks, and gentrification of EPCOT Center will be complete.
I'm far from an Epcot purist, but Figment doesn't need to go at all. He needs a good ride, that's it. Figment is a huge cash cow on the merch side. Figment is essentially a full IP at this point with how he has been incorporated into other media. Figment is like I say with any IP: Huge IPs can make a bad ride and smaller IPs can make for great rides. The public doesn't care what the name brand on the ride actually is, they just want a fun ride. Disney just needs to provide that.Yep.
Yep. And I hate to say it but Epcot “purists” … it’s time for Figment to go.
I’d be fine with a scrape or finish the playground to draw in the kids.
So… dues at Bay Hill are like $5k a year, after your $15k initiation fee, and there’s at least a $1k F&B minimum on that. People always zero on the “lifestylers” but there’s a *very* large market of people in Central Florida who are more than willing to pay Pirate Pass prices to have a non-country club country club to wander around in the evenings. My first take was that the center section could use a full liquor bar - it’s surprising they haven’t leaned in on $20-25 cocktails like DCL has… and I mean legitimate, quality drinks - not a $14.99 SeaWorld Bud Light that gets surcharged and tipped up to $19.
Magic Kingdom isn’t really my thing, so I’d say Epcot is probably the most balanced park in Orlando.
Even if the ride's refurb is dependent on the film... I can't imagine it will last that long in its current iteration. Maybe WDI has a Plan A if the film does well and a Plan B if the film doesn't and they get a smaller budget for the refurb.Yea, my daughter, who had no prior indication of who Figment was before last month, now carries her Figment stuffy around all day at home.
The character has legs and is a merch generator. They’re also making a movie for him.
I wouldn’t be surprised if that building was gutted and a new ride was installed in the next 5 years. Well…maybe I’d be surprised that they were actually doing something, but not that it was that.
That’s fair - I think it’s that I don’t have any faith in them building a ride that does him justice as a standalone IP that doesn’t feel like pandering.I'm far from an Epcot purist, but Figment doesn't need to go at all. He needs a good ride, that's it. Figment is a huge cash cow on the merch side. Figment is essentially a full IP at this point with how he has been incorporated into other media. Figment is like I say with any IP: Huge IPs can make a bad ride and smaller IPs can make for great rides. The public doesn't care what the name brand on the ride actually is, they just want a fun ride. Disney just needs to provide that.
I do agree they should bulldoze the Wonders building and start from scratch there though.
I agree. I feel that area looks good, but needs a better ride so that people want to go over there.The iconic Glass Pyramids of the pavilion itself, the prominent location right on the edge between World Showcase and old Future World, the scale of the building with the reverse waterfall, jumping fountains, adjoined show space & meet n greet areas, and bright eye-catching sign and color scheme scream "This building has something wonderful to show you inside." Then you walk in and it's possibly the worst, cheapest, and most neglected dark ride in all of Walt Disney World.
The character of Figment, and even the Dreamfinder to an extent, have grown to the point where they are slapped on just about any piece of park memorabilia and promotional materials you can think of. They just redesigned him, Oswald, and Dumbo as mascots on a lot of new marketing materials right next to Mickey and Minnie. He's getting a Little Golden Book next year.
Figment should be an E-Ticket, and if there was an incredibly well-made family friendly dark ride in that pavilion it would round out Epcot to a point where I don't think much else would bother me all too much about the park. It's the last major plug to fill and it's probably the most important one.
The original version of the Imagination ride had the origin story of Figment. Many generations don't know that and see the purple dragon just like a fun thing but the story was brilliant. I'd like to see a version of that origin story come back into the ride. Have the ride trackless and interactive so you can let you imagination run wild would be a huge plus.
Also fix the projection such that everyone* can see a normal non-bent Eiffel Tower and un-curvy Pyramids.Remaking Soarin' Around the World to be more atmospheric and with a greater focus on the beauty of real skylines, as opposed to CGI Landmarks and Animals that don't give the same wonder of human flight as Over California did. As well as removing the jarring Transitions and restoring SOC's oddly smooth jumpcuts between scenes.