I thought it was just Uni's general policy during HHN to card frequently. Card when you get a band, card when you buy.
I don't buy it. The "real" guys are watching the event, if they saw this going on they would be all over it. Now that you are 19 I hope you take this as a learning experience that at 15 you wouldn't get. Took me to 39 but I am a slow learner...I will say when I was younger I was with some people who were 21 and I was only 15. They had a beer and two random guys came up and asked to see ID. They of course showed the ID. But these two people were absolutely NOT cops. This was in the middle of the line for American Werewolf back at 23, and the two guys jumped the line, came up to us, carded my friends, then left the line. I reported it to a TM. He said sometimes there will be people that go around the park posing as cops. When they catch underage drinkers they ask them to come with them and say they're "under arrest". Then when they get the kids out to their cars in the parking lot they'll say,"hey, if you give me $100 I won't arrest you". And usually they get their way. Kinda scary to think this stuff happens on a regular basis at HHN.
Learning experience for what? Man you people on this forums are absolutely toxic. I'm not allowed to say a single thing before getting shut down. Seriously what's wrong with you people? That is a true story and that's exactly what the TM told me.I don't buy it. The "real" guys are watching the event, if they saw this going on they would be all over it. Now that you are 19 I hope you take this as a learning experience that at 15 you wouldn't get. Took me to 39 but I am a slow learner...
I wasn't attacking you just saying that I don't believe there are people taking guests out to the parking lot and shaking them down.Learning experience for what? Man you people on this forums are absolutely toxic. I'm not allowed to say a single thing before getting shut down. Seriously what's wrong with you people? That is a true story and that's exactly what the TM told me.
I've seen some extremely shady stuff in person go down in those parking lots during HHN. You'd be shocked at the lack of security there.I wasn't attacking you just saying that I don't believe there are people taking guests out to the parking lot and shaking them down.
Maybe that is what you were told but it is not true
I understand but it wouldn't get that far and if it did there would be reports about it rather than a TM spreading a story.I've seen some extremely shady stuff in person go down in those parking lots during HHN. You'd be shocked at the lack of security there.
I will say when I was younger I was with some people who were 21 and I was only 15. They had a beer and two random guys came up and asked to see ID. They of course showed the ID. But these two people were absolutely NOT cops. This was in the middle of the line for American Werewolf back at 23, and the two guys jumped the line, came up to us, carded my friends, then left the line. I reported it to a TM. He said sometimes there will be people that go around the park posing as cops. When they catch underage drinkers they ask them to come with them and say they're "under arrest". Then when they get the kids out to their cars in the parking lot they'll say,"hey, if you give me $100 I won't arrest you". And usually they get their way. Kinda scary to think this stuff happens on a regular basis at HHN.
Learning experience for what? Man you people on this forums are absolutely toxic. I'm not allowed to say a single thing before getting shut down. Seriously what's wrong with you people? That is a true story and that's exactly what the TM told me.
We were hassled 3 times last night by Universal Security/OPD for standing there with a drink in our hands. No drunken behavior, loud talking etc. Literally just standing there with a drink. And repeatedly hassled. I have only used one day off my Frequent Fear Pass. We were planning on also attending Wednesday and Thurs, and next weekend.
I will be skipping the rest of the event because of Universal Security.
I understand but it wouldn't get that far and if it did there would be reports about it rather than a TM spreading a story.
TBH that is Disney ......In the last year a guy literally fell down the steps of the Main Street Train Station and landed on his baby he was carrying and fatally injured it. Stuff happens and you don't hear about it.
You don't hear about the majority of the people who choose to jump off the Contemporary.
Which is why the design of Adventura troubles me, especially with the rooftop guest area.
TBH that is Disney property......
Gasoline on a fire. I'd link my tweet but it is incredibly not family friendly. Yes, I was f'ing stupid enough to try it again,
We have entered surreal territory. As in having law enforcement pull me and my daughter out of the Simpson's preshow room (where people were actually eating turkey legs, I'm talking the preshow room with the closing doors) claiming that they had multiple complaints of the two of us touching scareactors in houses and then putting us on a Simpson's car all by our selves. Oddly enough, we had not done any houses at all. Zero. Zip. Nada. None.
I was 2 whole beer in, so maybe I had blacked out? Seriously, WTF?
We left, again. Makes me reconsider my Thanksgivings plan (2 deluxe rooms at portofino, Tchoup Chop, and BiCE). And my APs.
I absolutely will NOT!!!!! be attending HHNs again this year. They have lost their freakin' minds!
This is off topic, but the post I made a few days ago criticizing UORs ops team basically comes down to exactly what you described. Ops puts up with a lot of crap and protecting the scareactors is obviously a top priority, but there needs to be some sort of line that they don't cross.I'm sorry to hear that, Dave.
Unfortunately, you aren't the only person who's experienced this overwrought treatment from security. I've heard stories from seasoned vets that were accused of things they didn't do. It's sorta funny because they need to be overprotective of their scareactors, but they also need to be mindful of who they accuse (and how it comes across).
Completely different situation, but Drew and I were hanging around Festival and saw one of the dancing girls get approached by a couple of young teens and asked for a photo. She allowed it, and they went ahead and leaned up against the stage for the photo. Out of nowhere, one of the TM's comes barging in yelling "GET OFF THE STAGE. UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE DO YOU NOT GET ON THE STAGE"...
Really?
The teens were generally shocked, and the scareactor seemed to try to tell the TM it was cool, but that's not a good look at all.
So I can only imagine the situation when it's something that's a more serious issue/accusation.
I did see UO reached out to you, though. Hopefully they take care of it and make it right with you.
Gasoline on a fire. I'd link my tweet but it is incredibly not family friendly. Yes, I was f'ing stupid enough to try it again,
We have entered surreal territory. As in having law enforcement pull me and my daughter out of the Simpson's preshow room (where people were actually eating turkey legs, I'm talking the preshow room with the closing doors) claiming that they had multiple complaints of the two of us touching scareactors in houses and then putting us on a Simpson's car all by our selves. Oddly enough, we had not done any houses at all. Zero. Zip. Nada. None.
I was 2 whole beer in, so maybe I had blacked out? Seriously, WTF?
We left, again. Makes me reconsider my Thanksgivings plan (2 deluxe rooms at portofino, Tchoup Chop, and BiCE). And my APs.
I absolutely will NOT!!!!! be attending HHNs again this year. They have lost their freakin' minds!
We have entered surreal territory. As in having law enforcement pull me and my daughter out of the Simpson's preshow room (where people were actually eating turkey legs, I'm talking the preshow room with the closing doors) claiming that they had multiple complaints of the two of us touching scareactors in houses and then putting us on a Simpson's car all by our selves. Oddly enough, we had not done any houses at all. Zero. Zip. Nada. None.
Quite frankly I find it insulting as someone who has been in those spots to plainly label everyone something because of some people you've met. Most people actually work in the parks doing regular jobs that aren't entertainment. Many of them do so at Universal, many do so at Disney.I think there's a couple disparate contributors to the chaos this year..
A) Scareactors are.. "empowered" - i'm not sure that's the right way to describe it - to report things thanks to a lot of press attention last year about injuries and assaults for entertainment during the event. I'm not at all the type to blame the victim, but I've also met the average scareactor. These are not people who could survive the normal day to day park operation and the amount of crap guests heap on regular TM's. Not all of course, but enough special snowflakes that i could easily see it getting out of hand and over-reporting for every bruised ego or imagined slight.
B) The event workers aren't regular TMs. They were hired last month or so and wont be there next month. Again, many couldn't handle a normal park guest contact shift. Fed the "protect the scareactors! no more incidents!" cry from management and you've got clueless folks being ultra overzealous while also missing the actual legit incidents due to inexperience.
C) No guests at the TM preview. This event usually culls the herd of TMs and their Guests who are willing to go to the event an act like idiots. One swoop and off they go in bulk. Without the guest portion of the event, fewer came, fewer acted a fool, but there's still the same ratio as any other year in the population. Now we get to deal with them throughout the run of the event until they're official caught. This contributes to A and B.