Not something I ever used since i drive to Florida. But WDW tourists that I've come into contact over the years seemed to love that service and spoke highly of it. Ride services, trains or whatever available, this
decision still will probably upset a lot of Disney customers. Taking away something that was free for a long time is always a questionable business decision that can have negative repercussions down
the line concerning future vacations. Disney sure seems in a self destructive mode with many of their recent decisions. All those years of perhaps the best marketing in US business, and super solid brand loyalty,
are not impervious. Disney is taking some real chances that their brand loyalty will not suffer.
Disney has been phasing out EMH for years. I remember the years where MK would close to DAY GUESTS at midnight and then have EMH for 3 hours until 3am. Then EMH went down to two hours. And then one. Now gone. What people are paying for with the After Hours parties used to come standard with staying on-site.Burying the lede here a bit with ignoring that EMH are also ending!
100% a way to increase the number of nights available for After Hours with minimal impacts to day guests.
And they wonder why they keep losing ground to Universal :think:Disney has been phasing out EMH for years. I remember the years where MK would close to DAY GUESTS at midnight and then have EMH for 3 hours until 3am. Then EMH went down to two hours. And then one. Now gone. What people are paying for with the After Hours parties used to come standard with staying on-site.
You also didn't have to worry about lugging your baggage around from the plane to a train to a bus. It went right to your room.First, the train isn’t opening in 2022. It will maybe be 2023 or ‘24. So that’s going to be a big gap of... nothing? Strictly ride shares? Because, here’s the biggest issue with this change.
Magical Express allowed guests to go from the airport to their hotel in one straight shot. They could sit down and not get up until they got to their destination. The train doesn’t provide that. Strictly going to DS necessitates a transfer, which is a hassle. It’s an even bigger hassle with kids. Disney fans accustomed to the convenience of the Express are unlikely to be fans of that, especially if they have kids.
I mean, we are on a Universal focused site and we constantly talk about them, so I think it seems like Universal is gaining way more than they actually are. Make no mistake, Universal is making gains on Disney, but I don't think Disney has lost all that much market share to Universal.And they wonder why they keep losing ground to Universal :think:
Which is what I thought Express did. I never used it.You also didn't have to worry about lugging your baggage around from the plane to a train to a bus. It went right to your room.
I can't see this as being anything but a downgrade
East or west of Team Disney?The train station is on the opposite side of the street of DS.
I'm not good with east/west, never have been, but I believe it's supposed to go across from the West Side entrance where the Team Disney parking lot is. Or in that vicinity.I'm pretty shocked right now. But I really shouldn't be. This is absolutely a cost cutting move.
I'll probably have more to say about DME vs trains later, but for now I'll just say that there's no way that this cancellation is for the trains to take on the DME role. There's going be a minimum of 2-3 years between DME ending and the train opening, assuming it ever gets built. That's not a service gap you deliberately create and hope that millions of people will ignore. This simply has to be about money.
East or west of Team Disney?
You are correct that it's not public yet, but the station location has been decided so people with Disney connections might already know. It is public that Brightline plans to enter Disney property from the east along 536, and then leave SW towards Tampa along I4. Given the amount space needed for a station and the turning radius required for a railroad, there's relatively few possible sites near Disney Springs. It seems to me that the best/most likely option would be behind (west of) Team Disney in the space between it and Typhoon Lagoon.The Orlando extension of Brightline is planned to open in 2022, but the Disney extension isn't planned until 2023. Unless someone has inside info, the station location is not public yet, so nobody would know.
Brightline is meeting with the Sunrail Board in February to discuss a partnership where Sunrail will operate local service between east Orlando and Disney using the Brightline tracks. I expect we will have a better idea of Brightline's route on Disney property by then.
Before I moved to Florida, I took probably close to 5-7 vacations and never once did we use DME. I know a lot of people use it, but I think we're kinda in a bubble of people who use it. I think most are either unaware of it or just would rather use rideshare services on their vacation. Many still get rental cars, although I don't really understand why someone still would. You save a crap ton of money not only in car rental money, but by not paying for parking at the parks or parking at hotel by using rideshare.(I’ve never used magical express)
No, I remember that story. Disney rents out those cars and it was confirmed that the cars were just being serviced.So I was mistaken, apparently all the Minnie vans were put up for sale at local dealerships. Looks like that perk is gone for good as well
Before I moved to Florida, I took probably close to 5-7 vacations and never once did we use DME. I know a lot of people use it, but I think we're kinda in a bubble of people who use it. I think most are either unaware of it or just would rather use rideshare services on their vacation. Many still get rental cars, although I don't really understand why someone still would. You save a crap ton of money not only in car rental money, but by not paying for parking at the parks or parking at hotel by using rideshare.
Before I moved to Florida, I took probably close to 5-7 vacations and never once did we use DME. I know a lot of people use it, but I think we're kinda in a bubble of people who use it.