From who? Disney owns The Muppets.Do they need permission to remove Muppet Vision?
They closed it on the west coast years ago.
From who? Disney owns The Muppets.Do they need permission to remove Muppet Vision?
That's why I was asking "do they need permission?"From who? Disney owns The Muppets.
They closed it on the west coast years ago.
That would kind of be the point, it would be the more tongue in cheek version of the TAA
You also have to factor in that "classics" like HM, PotC, Peter Pan, etc are some of the highest rated rides in the park. Hall of Presidents, Country Bears, Tiki Room and CoP are some of the lowest. While people on this forum may love animatronic shows, the general public clearly does not anymore, especially with no discernible IP attached.
World of Motion and Superstar Limo in the same paragraph makes me sadHumor-based shows/rides don't age well. Horizons-era EPCOT had a few--Kitchen Kabaret/Food Rocks, World of Motion, some throw-away stuff in Communicore. Superstar Limo was the first or second casualty in DCA (along with a tortilla-making exhibit, to show you the level of competition). No one cried when UOR retired the pop culture reference-heavy Sinbad. To the extent CoP still works among hard-core fans, it's despite the humor, not because of it. As Nick points out, none of the humorous shows have aged well with the general public.
Also don't forget that humor is a very cultural-specific thing. Even between the US and UK there are differences, and those are only exacerbated when English isn't your first language. For a park that will eventually rely on a ton of international guests again, I'm not sure jokes about American history are relevant enough to build an attraction around.
Mix in an IP with no relevance to people under 35, and you have an attraction that everyone will be walking past in 5 years.
As they say in the south, Bless Your Heart.I don't mean to be dismissive, but I literally don't care about any of that. I know all of the history on HoP, i've watched Martin's videos and stuff on it. I just kinda don't care if it traces a bit back to some work back then. Sure, it's fun trivia, but (and I feel like I keep saying this), WDW is NOT a living museum. It should be an ever evolving place.
I'd be more upset if they changed the Liberty Square name, tbh.
Why would that get a Bless Your Heart? Nick's not wrong at all here.As they say in the south, Bless Your Heart.
Yes, along with most everything worth while in Hollywoodland.They closed it on the west coast years ago.
It always felt like a lesser version of American Adventure tbhFor me HoP isn't a classic in the sense the other original MK attractions are. it always felt like a compromised attraction that just never fit. Obviously your milage may very.
This isn’t wrong. Which is why I’m all for the Muppets. At the very least, a tonal shift will help the attraction stand out as something distinct from a far better attraction.It always felt like a lesser version of American Adventure tbh
Not until they built AA. Up to then it was a marvel.It always felt like a lesser version of American Adventure tbh
It always felt like a lesser version of American Adventure tbh
RIP Chuck E Cheese shows.Yes, AA shows were new and hip when Disney was alive
It is now 2021
Yes, AA shows were new and hip when Disney was alive
It is now 2021
Because immediastely after saying he wasn't being dismissive, he was. I'm just pointed out that the same people who raised hell about an attraction Walt himself created in 1964 have no objection to closing an attraction Walt invisioned in 1956 and by all accounts was closer to Walt's heart and dreams. And every time I have gone to the HOP it's been at least 1/2 full if not more. <Its even worse with COVID now - sometimes its 2 shows full queue>Why would that get a Bless Your Heart? Nick's not wrong at all here.
To be fair, I think anyone referencing Walt's "heart and dreams" or "what Walt wanted" needs to recognize the man's been dead over half a century - what he wants truly doesn't matter. With that said, I'm with Nick - time for it to go, aside from my already-stated opinion.Because immediastely after saying he wasn't being dismissive, he was. I'm just pointed out that the same people who raised hell about an attraction Walt himself created in 1964 have no objection to closing an attraction Walt invisioned in 1956 and by all accounts was closer to Walt's heart and dreams. And every time I have gone to the HOP it's been at least 1/2 full if not more. <Its even worse with COVID now - sometimes its 2 shows full queue>