People change when they grow up. It had been 34 years since we last saw Luke in Return of the Jedi.Luke dying was not the problem. it was the way his personality was assassinated from the last time we saw him.
People change when they grow up. It had been 34 years since we last saw Luke in Return of the Jedi.Luke dying was not the problem. it was the way his personality was assassinated from the last time we saw him.
i know thats what people say but even mark hamill was against this and has been very vocal against it.People change when they grow up. It had been 34 years since we last saw Luke in Return of the Jedi.
I agree that Rian closed way too many storylines in Last Jedi, but is Snoke really dead? Anything can happen. I'm not worried about who will carry Ep. 9 as a villain until I watch the movie and determine if it worked or not for myself.i know thats what people say but even mark hamill was against this and has been very vocal against it.
I was just saying, you cannot be surprised when people react negatively to see their hero turn into a grumpy defeatist negative loner. Specially someone as hopeful as Luke. Yeah sure people can change in 34 for years but this was too radical of a change.
And that's not even taking into account that The Last Jedi destroyed any hype that Force awakens created when Rey found luke at the end, and the look they give each other. The fact that Rey finds him was such a huge moment for the franchise. Having Luke throw the lightsaber away like that felt like a punch to the gut to so many people
And now that Snoke is dead.... who is the bad guy? Kylo? Kylo cannot carry episode 9 by himself.... thats just not possible. not only do they kill luke, but they take out the bad guy from the franchise? was this director insane? I really do not care if they never said who snoke was or give him a back story.... but you dont take out the big baddie from your franchise..... now there's no one to root against. what a mess..... Snoke was such an interesting and creepy part of Force awakens and he was such a threatening presence and now hes just dead..... yeah i cannot see how they are going to fix all of this for episode 9.
Yeah, you're seriously overestimating how many people hate these two characters. Anyone who thinks Rose or L3 is worse than Jar Jar is delusional. :look:well the point is, Rose might be the most hated human character in Star wars History. I can't think of anyone else that got this much hate since little Anakin. And at least little Anakin drove the ships and participated in the race. Rose did nothing of value in the movie.
And then not only was Rose really badly written but Solo adds the most hated robot in the history of star wars with L3 37. how does this even happen? does no one check these scripts? l3 37 turned off so many people from this movie..... even some the few people that went to see Solo and liked the movie couldn't believe how terrible this android was written.... whats going on over at Disney, why are they making these mistakes?
And then not only was Rose really badly written but Solo adds the most hated robot in the history of star wars with L3 37. how does this even happen? does no one check these scripts? l3 37 turned off so many people from this movie..... even some the few people that went to see Solo and liked the movie couldn't believe how terrible this android was written....
This is actually the first negative reaction I've heard about L3-37. I haven't seen Solo (will wait for DVD or whatever streaming service gets it), but many reviews I read praised the character.
Man, I am such a huge Star Wars fan and have been for 35+ years, it’s by far my favourite movie franchise. But honestly, they’re just silly adventure movies with space wizards that wave laser swords around.
It’s so weird that people get SO upset about them. FURIOUS because the story didn’t go the way they wanted it to. I genuinely can’t comprehend it.
/awaits comments that I’m not a ‘real Star Wars fan’
I don't think anger should be the word we use. After all, this is just fiction in the end. Disappointment is more the word to use, depending on how you viewed the movie.but what about being angry at the great potential JJ Abrams created and that was pushed to the side? what about the anger at all the wasted potential that was set up By JJ Himself? what about the ruining of plot lines that were supposed to carry all 3 movies? what about all of that? how can it not make people angry that they were invested in something and paid money for something to have it all screwed up now?
people are not angry because it didn't go THEIR way, people got angry because it didn't go JJ's way. there's a difference.
No one was angry with Rogue one or Solo. no one was angry with Force awakens. no one was angry with the video games,
a lot of people are angry that this one movie kind of ruined the whole set up of the entire franchise.
I understand if you guys wanted to avoid criticisms of the movie, but youtube is Filled with legitimate videos pointing out how Rian and the Last Jedi hurt this entire trilogy. you dont have to listen to me, but i could post a few good, non trollish, serious analytical videos that point out how the last jedi broke the flow of the trilogy.
I don't think anger should be the word we use. After all, this is just fiction in the end. Disappointment is more the word to use, depending on how you viewed the movie.
I do think the major misstep in this new trilogy was picking three different directors (originally) to direct all three movies. You're never going to have a coherent trilogy that way. They needed to pick a director for the entire trilogy, pick a group of writers, and ride it out with them so that the movies would not only be enjoyable, but the trilogy would make sense and be completely coherent from beginning to end. This trilogy isn't that, much because of how weak Kylo is as a villain (although that's more of a character development issue). I think individually TFA and TLJ are really fun movies, but together as a story they aren't leaving me on the edge of my seat for what will happen in Episode 9.
Lucas did give them a real outline when he sold to Disney, but Disney basically threw that right in the trash.If only they had an outline for all 3 movies from the beginning.... a real outline.
Lucas did give them a real outline when he sold to Disney, but Disney basically threw that right in the trash.
Thanks for the kind offer, but I think we’re all good with being beat over the head with how wrong we are if we liked TLJ. I genuinely love it, how bold and progressive it is. I love how it is a study on failure, I buy into Luke completely regarding where he is in his life, I genuinely think the movie contains some of the greatest moments in the Star Wars saga.but what about being angry at the great potential JJ Abrams created and that was pushed to the side? what about the anger at all the wasted potential that was set up By JJ Himself? what about the ruining of plot lines that were supposed to carry all 3 movies? what about all of that? how can it not make people angry that they were invested in something and paid money for something to have it all screwed up now?
people are not angry because it didn't go THEIR way, people got angry because it didn't go JJ's way. there's a difference.
No one was angry with Rogue one or Solo. no one was angry with Force awakens. no one was angry with the video games,
a lot of people are angry that this one movie kind of ruined the whole set up of the entire franchise.
I understand if you guys wanted to avoid criticisms of the movie, but youtube is Filled with legitimate videos pointing out how Rian and the Last Jedi hurt this entire trilogy. you dont have to listen to me, but i could post a few good, non trollish, serious analytical videos that point out how the last jedi broke the flow of the trilogy.
Thanks for the kind offer, but I think we’re all good with being beat over the head with how wrong we are if we liked TLJ. I genuinely love it, how bold and progressive it is. I love how it is a study on failure, I buy into Luke completely regarding where he is in his life, I genuinely think the movie contains some of the greatest moments in the Star Wars saga.
My top 3 is now ANH, ESB, TLJ.
The movie shocked me with its decisions, but in an unexpected and satisfying way. We’re going to potentially have new Star Wars movies every year or so now for however long into the future, they can’t all just be a retread of the old movies, I want something new and different.
As much as you want to tell people like me that we’re wrong and that we just don’t want to accept criticisms of the movie, I could also spend my time linking to reviews and YouTube videos that praise the choices made in TLJ. But honestly, What does it ultimately achieve? I’m sorry that you don’t like it and hopefully once the next episode comes out, it may put it more into context for you and others that it is the 2nd part of an as yet unfinished trilogy. Who knows, the story is incomplete right now and you may even end up loving how it arrives at its destination in the end?
Ultimately though, life is too short to focus so much energy on wanting to convince others to hate something that you hate. Especially when it’s just a movie about Space Wizards. It’s all a bit ghoulish.
Yes, I’d happily tell Mark Hamill that I loved his movie.would you say that to Mark hamill?
i am a huge fan of the matrix reloaded and i am a huge fan of batman forever. another one of my favorite movies is warcraft
i know very well what it is like to love a movie with a lot of flaws or a movie that a lot of people hate.
it doesnt change the fact that they have a lot of problems, doesnt change the fact that they have bad acting. im not gonna deny their problems or assume anyone that didnt like what they did is dumb or angry or bitter. those movies to me are great but im not gonna be blind to their faults.
im sure you can find youtube vids praising the movie. i understand you loved it. it still doesnt change the fact that rian purposely went against the set up from force awakens. doesnt change that the story gets messy.
Leia flying and Holdo running her ship into another ship even ruin plot points from the original movies. People make fun of midichlorians and how that made no sense but leia flying contradicts the original movies and was worse.... thats just like a fact.
shes got real connections. it is not the old rumor. shes worked for DC AND marvel before. shes been on the red carpet and been at the oscars covering itWow people are still trying to use this "news" to get views and clicks
shes got real connections. it is not the old rumor. shes worked for DC AND marvel before. shes been on the red carpet and been at the oscars covering it
she was on set for Justice league and for Batman v Superman. as far as youtube channels go shes the most connected.
Shes also interviewed hollywood stars for every major movie release. I only watch her out of anyone on youtube because shes actually connected to the industry and she has a lot of contacts. her videos are fair and balanced. shes very technical in her videos
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