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[Scott W.]

how many nights? tickets not included I imagine?

14 nights. It's on the Thomson website.

 

[Wolf359]

Disney was even cheaper than that last year with Thomson. Not often but it did dip below £600 pp a few times for all stars. They fleece you with the park tickets though lol

 

[awhen]

14 nights. It's on the Thomson website.

That's for 14 nights and a plane ticket? That's insane. I can't even fly to the U.K. for that price, forget about the hotel!

 

[Mad Dog]

That's for 14 nights and a plane ticket? That's insane. I can't even fly to the U.K. for that price, forget about the hotel!

Disney wants that high UK guest spending for drinks, food and merchandise.

 

[bob albert]

14 nights. It's on the Thomson website.

That is an absurd deal. Anyone have a plane ticket/ hotel deal back to england from the usa for that price?

 

[Scott W.]

That is an absurd deal. Anyone have a plane ticket/ hotel deal back to england from the usa for that price?

The price difference is ridiculous when you flip it. Same date. Same airline. I thought it would maybe be those dates but if you mess around with it, it's pretty much always double.

 

[epcyclopedia]

And you can't get those rates from the US. Heck virgin won't even let you book that routing. You have to book via Delta.

 

[Mad Dog]

Mice Chat photo article on Epcot today. The article pointed out how empty the park was at mid afternoon on a sunny summer day, and had photos to prove it.

Today from Len Testa on Touring Plans, "We've heard that Disney is making a small reduction to some Castmember shifts at it's domestic parks and resorts beginning with tomorrow's work week. We hear the cutbacks will run from July 23 through Sept. 30, 2017, the last day of Disney's fiscal year."

 

[Teebin]

We hear the cutbacks will run from July 23 through Sept. 30, 2017, the last day of Disney's fiscal year."

The old "make the numbers look better than they are", corporate trick. :saywhat:

 

[Mad Dog]

The old "make the numbers look better than they are", corporate trick. :saywhat:

Pandora probably came in under expectations with it's more like NewFantasyLand bump than a CarsLand type bump. As you said, cook the books with cuts to make the summer quarter look better than it really was, profit wise.

 

[Disneyhead]

I would normally say that it is a case of plan for the worst then adjust. But with the cut aligning so perfectly with the fiscal quarter, this reeks of financial manipulation.

 

[Jon84]

I would normally say that it is a case of plan for the worst than adjust. But with the cut aligning so perfectly with the fiscal quarter, this reeks of financial manipulation.

It's not like Disney are the only company that does it though. It's common in Business in general!

 

[gbird]

I know its the off season but looking at prices for September and Disney All sports with direct flight from UK (Thomson from Birmingham) is only £500 and that includes free breakfast. Never seen the prices anywhere near this low.

 

[Scott W.]

I know its the off season but looking at prices for September and Disney All sports with direct flight from UK (Thomson from Birmingham) is only £500 and that includes free breakfast. Never seen the prices anywhere near this low.

Thomas Cook isn't nearly as cheap. I'm thinking that Thomson have bought far more rooms than they can shift and now just giving them away. Ever since the Dreamliner was introduced, Thomson have wanted a premium even though it flies into Sanford.

 

[gbird]

Thomas Cook isn't nearly as cheap. I'm thinking that Thomson have bought far more rooms than they can shift and now just giving them away. Ever since the Dreamliner was introduced, Thomson have wanted a premium even though it flies into Sanford.

We have just spent roughly 2k for a week away in the UK (Centreparcs) adding the costs and tickets in would have only been £300 more to go disney for a week in September

 

[Donald Razorduck]

The price difference is ridiculous when you flip it. Same date. Same airline. I thought it would maybe be those dates but if you mess around with it, it's pretty much always double.

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Airlines like Norwegian are going to hand Delta it's ass soon. Especially when they get the A321lr and drop in every city with a catchment area of 3 million. I just read an article out of Scotland where the C3O states that he is going to start routes from the mid US in 2019 when they start getting that plane, first example was Edinburgh/Memphis.

 

[Jon84]

Airlines like Norwegian are going to hand Delta it's ass soon. Especially when they get the A321lr and drop in every city with a catchment area of 3 million. I just read an article out of Scotland where the C3O states that he is going to start routes from the mid US in 2019 when they start getting that plane, first example was Edinburgh/Memphis.

Only problem with Norwegian is that by the time you buy all the extras you need (Baggage, food, drinks, entertainment etc) you're almost at a Delta/VA Price!

Edinburgh to Memphis would be a dead route.

Airlines like Thomas Cook can't even fill planes to Orlando from Glasgow, Manchester or Gatwick in the Summer. In fact they don't fly to MCO for 4-6 months of the year sometimes!!

 

[Donald Razorduck]

Only problem with Norwegian is that by the time you buy all the extras you need (Baggage, food, drinks, entertainment etc) you're almost at a Delta/VA Price!

Edinburgh to Memphis would be a dead route.

Airlines like Thomas Cook can't even fill planes to Orlando from Glasgow, Manchester or Gatwick in the Summer. In fact they don't fly to MCO for 4-6 months of the year sometimes!!

Totally different type of market being serviced by a totally different type on plane. Plus, rattle off how many TATL routes Orlando has vs Memphis. Orlando enjoys competitive pricing. The fares are apples and oranges. A TATL to London from From MEM is well over $1,000. You would be shocked at how many people live within 4 hrs of Memphis. The same 4hrs drive catchment area standard New Orleans used to to land BA and Condor.

I'm not talking daily flights but 1 to 2 times weekly here and I highly doubt year round.

 

[Jon84]

Totally different type of market being serviced by a totally different type on plane. Plus, rattle off how many TATL routes Orlando has vs Memphis. Orlando enjoys competitive pricing. The fares are apples and oranges. A TATL to London from From MEM is well over $1,000. You would be shocked at how many people live within 4 hrs of Memphis. The same 4hrs drive catchment area standard New Orleans used to to land BA and Condor.

I'm not talking daily flights but 1 to 2 times weekly here and I highly doubt year round.

The main point is that the volume of passengers just isnt them to go to Memphis otherwise there would be a direct route, which there isn't now. Clearly not cost effective else they'd be all over it!

 

[Donald Razorduck]

The main point is that the volume of passengers just isnt them to go to Memphis otherwise there would be a direct route, which there isn't now. Clearly not cost effective else they'd be all over it!

New plane with a new volume of passengers matrix. This is an airline now flying Providence RI/Bergen Norway on 737s. Right now, they only have 787s with range past New England. That is too big but the A321lr isn tjat much bigger than the new 737maxs. It's why Boeing will be announcing a brand new plane program very soon. 200 to 220 passengers with 5000nm range twin aisle but with the economics of new single aisle......supposedly. If these planes perform as promises, thousands of new point to point routes will be possible.

You can take one A321LR and fly it to two to three cities on week that similar in range allowing you pretty much the same arrival time at the European station.