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Last I checked, Avengers is like FoP, but not a clone. Different restraint, seating position, and load+load transition.
It's not bad and I enjoy it quite a bit, however, i'd much prefer them have created a high-end E-ticket that mixes physical and screens. I think FoP was a really good ride for the Avatar franchise, but for Avengers, I feel like there needed to be a RotR counterpart as it will be much more in-demand.I never knew I'd be the FoP apologist on the board
Last I checked, Avengers is like FoP, but not a clone. Different restraint, seating position, and load+load transition.
Or do something with physical + projection mapping with Doctor Strange in a relatively contained space. Or do a madhouse! That's never been done in a Disney park before.I’d much rather get a Guardians-esque coaster at this point, especially since the building is going to be a big gray box either way.
Here's my thing. Isn't FoP a maintenance nightmare? Wouldn't cloning that be shooting themselves in the foot?
Based on the concept art that has been released for the Avengers ride, I expected something like the abandoned ride idea for the old Space pavilion at Epcot...
And I would add, my resistance to cloning Flight of Passage's ride system isn't because I don't like that ride. I do (I think it's probably the best pure simulator out there, which -- if anyone is aware of my general stance on simulators -- means it does its job very well). And I think it complements Animal Kingdom's attraction lineup nicely.
My issue is that cloning pure simulators in parks that already have simulators/simulator-adjacent rides is lazy, especially for a property that is currently the most popular franchise on the planet.
Problem with an Avengers ride is which characters to base it on? Corporate Disney would want whatever is relevant on Disney+, while the best solution would be to have it be based on no timeline and to feature all the characters.
By the time this gets built, the "original" Avengers will be outdated.
There are a million different things they could have done with Marvel. They chose a really good, popular ride system to clone for the big E-ticket.I think we're also falling into the fallacy that a new ride system is REQUIRED for this ride. Look at Carsland; arguably the best single IP theme land they've done and the major E-Ticket is a modified Test Track that surpasses the original. I think fans frustrations with unambitious Marvel rides is spilling into "well if the ride system is new then that'll make it ambitious" which I don't agree with.
The last two additions to Universal (also associated with mega-IPs) were just roller coasters…nothing on Hagrid’s or Velocicoaster had never been done before and yet these are two of the best rides in Orlando (well, can’t speak from personal experience on VC yet but the reviews are good enough or me). It’s the theming, story, etc. that makes them the best, not the tech. Same with why Spider-Man is regarded so much better than Transformers. So there’s really no reason to jump the gun this early writing off a new ride just because the tech has been used before.
On the other hand, you have Rise of the Resistance, which was innovative by any reasonable standard and yet everyone is mad that it breaks down and still requires VL because of its complexity.
I don’t mean to be the go-to cheerleader for Avengers Campus (I don’t think it’s great but it’s not as bad as everyone has made it out to be). But these reactions are shockingly negative and, like, Disney can generally be counted on to create a solid product…the worst new thing they’ve done was what, the newer version of the Imagination ride?
That’s not even to say…how often do rumors at this stage end up panning out completely anyway?
I was entirely with you until the Disney can be counted on to create a solid product line.
I'd argue they have had many misses and mistakes. Thats not a bad thing if they are learned from, but I'm not sure there is any evidence to prove that the have/do.
Avengers Campus sucks. I don't care what tech they use as long as it's good (as you suggested) but not opening a flagship ride with a new land is shameful, and this is now strike 2 for Disney on that front
I was entirely with you until the Disney can be counted on to create a solid product line.
I'd argue they have had many misses and mistakes. Thats not a bad thing if they are learned from, but I'm not sure there is any evidence to prove that the have/do.
Avengers Campus sucks. I don't care what tech they use as long as it's good (as you suggested) but not opening a flagship ride with a new land is shameful, and this is now strike 2 for Disney on that front
I would kill for a new age suspended dark ride with a motion base. Imagine IOA Spidey and ET fused together. That would really be something interesting. It would even better give you the illusion of flying a Quinjet.I’ll take a clone of FoP over another trackless ride system similar to RotR. I know the plans were something new and innovative but if they’re copying another ride system, glad it’s not trackless again. Already getting two of them at DL.
I'd probably agree with that, as the trackless system isn't right for the property.I’ll take a clone of FoP over another trackless ride system similar to RotR. I know the plans were something new and innovative but if they’re copying another ride system, glad it’s not trackless again. Already getting two of them at DL.