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Celestial Park - General Discussion Thread

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I was really disappointed by the carousel. I didn’t like the music, didn’t find the ride all that fun and aesthetically it just doesn’t do anything for me. I wish they had just restored an old carousel or, better still, built an opulent, traditional one themselves.
 
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I was really disappointed by the carousel. I didn’t like the music, didn’t find the ride all that fun and aesthetically it just doesn’t do anything for me. I wish they had just restored an old carousel or, better still, built an opulent, traditional one themselves.
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My first post regarding Epic labeled it as occasionally sincere to the point of awkwardness. I was primarily speaking on Constellation Carousel.

It's cool, to an extent. The way that the poles that would traditionally lead up toward a low roof instead end with a knob, giving the impression of floating along in space, not bound by any track or mechanical path. The sudden end to the pole also leads your eye up towards a huge star map mural. It feels like a carousel made with modern tech, and that's got some novelty to it.

But, yeah. Besides that mural, there isn't actually that much to look at or do. I have to imagine that the tech used to make the free-floating pole trick happen necessitates far fewer animals than a large grand carousel like this would usually have. For all of its' budget, I feel like traditional ornate carousels honestly have a bit more wow to them. Seeing dozens and dozens of carved horses and animals rising and falling so closely together is fun! Ironically, Epic Universe's Carousel simply has too much space.

Because the tech is unique and there are far fewer animals, it also has the Epic Universe specialty combo-pack of being tough to operate and not having great capacity. I can't tell you how long the load times have consistently been for this attraction whenever I try it out again. They'll list a 20 minute wait and it'll usually take another 15+ minutes than that to actually get on the ride. Doesn't help that the technically shaded queue doesn't operate their large outdoor fans, so it's still pretty sweltering under that big Saucer-shaped dome roof.

You don't actually get full choice of which animal you get to ride either. They have assigned my group to one the last few times I've been on, and assigning usually takes a moment of downtime between rides.

Usually carousels have a few variants of whatever carving you sit on. At least enough variety for a few different paintjobs on the horse's saddles or something similar. But between those different variants there are usually many versions of the same carving, so if you wanted a Green-saddled horse and someone nabbed that one already, there's about 6 more available, so you just have to go find one of those and it's no worries. Not here. All of the animals are unique sculpts, and there's less than 20 if I remember. If you want the Rabbit and it's taken; sorry bud. No rabbit this time.

It also doesn't help that a number of the smaller animals are legitimately uncomfortably small to sit on; and I'm a little guy! I can't imagine a big Wisconsin father trying to sit on the Rabbit after walking up and down Super Nintendo World stairs for the last 3 hours. Lucky(?) for him, the ride is so short he won't be sitting down for long anyways.

For all of its' presentation, it doesn't actually have much of anything to present. The different music tracks are pretty forgettable. The sculpts are nicely fabricated, but the limited variety leads to a number of issues. It's consistently an operational mess. And once you're past all of that, the actual experience is just ... bobbing up and down on a pole for about a minute and a half.

That's how most carousels are, obviously. But CC seems to think of itself as something bigger, flashier, more regal and ornate than it is. Some of the orchestral music tracks portray the ride as a whimsical journey through the stars, or a pumping electric skyride, but the actual experience is very dull, and that difference is felt in the awkwardness of not having anything to do but stare into empty space, or at other riders' as they also bop up and down, half-amused. I've seen double-decker traditional wooden horse carousels with incandescent bulbs with far more energy and flash.

A friend of mine made a game to play as you're on this attraction, Starball or something like that. It's basically the improv game where you pretend to throw a ball around, but it's a big comet-esque ball that you pretend to chuck to and from other riders in hopes that everyone can play along. She said it was to cut through the awkwardness and to give them and other riders something to do. That says a number of things about the attraction in itself, I think haha.
 
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Jake S said:
I wish they had just restored an old carousel or, better still, built an opulent, traditional one themselves.
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It's an unpopular opinion but I'm with you on it. This new age carousel is just SO low capacity that it has no business being the only ride in the land other than the coasters. A more traditional carousel but with a unique design twist like the hand-carved animals over in Tropical America's would have been better.
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A people-mover was mentioned in another thread, and that would've been pretty great honestly, if only just for the additional shade it would bring haha!
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I think they fell in love with the idea of the comets of Stardust being the Celestians' mode of transportation that any other more traditional form of transport like a people mover was never an option sadly.
 
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I think it's cool that Helios is a real working hotel, and I really do love the look and shape of it as a weenie, but the former means it's also such an unfortunate missed opportunity. That square-ish shape makes it such a perfect canvas for Cinderella's Castle-style projection mapping during nighttime spectaculars! A shame that can never happen without permanently blinding everyone staying in their park-view rooms with high-powered lasers. :nervous:

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My only issue with the Carousel is how slow the loading is. We rode it at night and really enjoyed the music and light show that went along with it.

I'm sure it wouldn't be that exciting during the day.
 
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GA-MBIT said:
Some of the orchestral music tracks portray the ride as a whimsical journey through the stars, or a pumping electric skyride, but the actual experience is very dull, and that difference is felt in the awkwardness of not having anything to do but stare into empty space, or at other riders' as they also bop up and down, half-amused.
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Well, the ride was originally designed to go much faster and do more diverse movements. It still can. This is how Universal wanted it, though. They could change the program on it, if they wanted.
 
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-" the actual experience is just ... bobbing up and down on a pole for about a minute and a half."

...Yeah, that's normally what a carousel does. Not sure what more you were expecting, for it to suddenly turn into a drop ride or roller-coaster half-way through? I will agree that some constellations aren't super-comfortable and not all of the tracks are bangers...but I definitely found some to either be total bops or total vibes regardless. Not trying to be rude, but it really does seem like some of y'all are impossible to please. It's a carousel, move along.
 
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Cwoolboy said:
...Yeah, that's normally what a carousel does. Not sure what more you were expecting, for it to suddenly turn into a drop ride or roller-coaster half-way through? I will agree that some constellations aren't super-comfortable and not all of the tracks are bangers...but I definitely found some to either be total bops or total vibes regardless. Not trying to be rude, but it really does seem like some of y'all are impossible to please. It's a carousel, move along.
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yeah, and it does those motions with literally none of the charm of a traditional carousel all while tanking its capacity. gimme a break.
 
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Proving my point about some of y'all being impossible to please.
 
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GA-MBIT said:
I think it's cool that Helios is a real working hotel, and I really do love the look and shape of it as a weenie, but the former means it's also such an unfortunate missed opportunity. That square-ish shape makes it such a perfect canvas for Cinderella's Castle-style projection mapping during nighttime spectaculars! A shame that can never happen without permanently blinding everyone staying in their park-view rooms with high-powered lasers. :nervous:

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So I could be wrong, but when we stayed at MiraCosta in Tokyo we watched some of the nighttime show from our room. I swear I thought I saw projection mapping or lights of some kind on the rooms across the way. I feel like there's gotta be some way to do this?
 
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Cwoolboy said:
-" the actual experience is just ... bobbing up and down on a pole for about a minute and a half."

...Yeah, that's normally what a carousel does. Not sure what more you were expecting, for it to suddenly turn into a drop ride or roller-coaster half-way through? I will agree that some constellations aren't super-comfortable and not all of the tracks are bangers...but I definitely found some to either be total bops or total vibes regardless. Not trying to be rude, but it really does seem like some of y'all are impossible to please. It's a carousel, move along.
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I was gonna write out a response, but it turns out I already did in the exact next paragraph to your quote of me.

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That's how most carousels are, obviously. But CC seems to think of itself as something bigger, flashier, more regal and ornate than it is. Some of the orchestral music tracks portray the ride as a whimsical journey through the stars, or a pumping electric skyride, but the actual experience is very dull, and that difference is felt in the awkwardness of not having anything to do but stare into empty space, or at other riders' as they also bop up and down, half-amused. I've seen double-decker traditional wooden horse carousels with incandescent bulbs with far more energy and flash.
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Besides that mural, there isn't actually that much to look at or do. I have to imagine that the tech used to make the free-floating pole trick happen necessitates far fewer animals than a large grand carousel like this would usually have. For all of its' budget, I feel like traditional ornate carousels honestly have a bit more wow to them. Seeing dozens and dozens of carved horses and animals rising and falling so closely together is fun! Ironically, Epic Universe's Carousel simply has too much space.
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CC has some novelty to it, but that novelty comes at the direct cost of a lot of the fun and appeal of traditional carousels. It isn't the worst thing in the world by any means, but a more traditional design would've probably improved operations, and my opinion of it.

I think Caroseussel is superior in a number of ways, if I'm honest!
 
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kristenabelle said:
So I could be wrong, but when we stayed at MiraCosta in Tokyo we watched some of the nighttime show from our room. I swear I thought I saw projection mapping or lights of some kind on the rooms across the way. I feel like there's gotta be some way to do this?
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They utilize projection mapping on the hotel buildings. From my understanding, they "carve out" the windows so they can limit how much light bleeds into the rooms.

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CC has some novelty to it, but that novelty comes at the direct cost of a lot of the fun and appeal of traditional carousels. It isn't the worst thing in the world by any means, but a more traditional design would've probably improved operations, and my opinion of it.

I think Caroseussel is superior in a number of ways, if I'm honest!
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I think you can make a valid argument that the cost to develop this carousel, and all of its cool tricks, could have been better utilized for an additional flat ride or two.
 
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To give Constellation Carousel some praise, it's great that the rider policy is so lax! Basically the only restriction is being able to hold oneself up. Very tiny babies are often able to ride, and that's pretty unique for this park, and most of the big theme parks out there honestly!
 
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