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Those rails aren't golden, thats just the lighting. No way would he be welding painted rails. I am like 99.9% sure black will not be in the color scheme for this coaster.
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BG might have only taken pics of those certain painted track pieces, if they are in fact painted, just to generate discussion/show what the colors will be. All the other track pieces would be welded non-painted. And if you look at the track piece in the background of the picture, it has the same black and gold color scheme, so it's not the lighting. So far they have been releasing details without saying so directly, and to me this looks like another one of those cases.
 
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I have to disagree with you, neither of those pieces of track are painted in that picture.
 
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Steel is not black, it is silver, so the track was obviously painted at some point, whether that be the final color or not.
 
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Looks like that to me, which is unpainted B&M track. I don't know why it looks black, maybe it is enforced somehow and when they are making it they add some chemicals or something. I highly doubt they would paint the metal, before they grind and weld it.
 
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Something interesting to note is that the piece you see from the teaser is actually a transition point from box track to triangle. The track in the teaser photo is actually upside down and is a hill of some sort.

Here's some examples of box to triangle track:

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Notice the bolt pattern:

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I never noticed the transitions were that terrible looking, that box track looks so unnecessary as it is.
 
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I agree that the transitions aren't exactly pretty.
 
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Ok, Ratmead, should I trust what you seriously doubt, or what I see as fact in pictures? Both the Manta and Cheetaka pics are in decent light, and Manta is silver, the color of untreated steel, and Cheetaka is black or dark gray. The picture you came up with is in the shadow of a large building, and that is why the track appears dark.

On the rail transitions, would you rather have an abrupt change in the number of rails, or die because the track didn't have enough rails and wasn't strong enough to support the cars. I hope you choose life and the ugly view.
 
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If anything the pictures you posted from johnyupside prove my point, those ties are silver but the spine is the exact same color of the Intamin track. It is that same color of all unpainted coaster track, if you are trying to tell me they paint it all black, only to grind it and weld it, ok? I am not really tying to argue with you, keep on being wrong it doesn't matter to me either way, I am pretty sure others will agree this it is just unpainted.

As far as the transition thing, I was just saying it looks awful. I didn't say it needs to be changed, or it was a bad engineering decision, whats your deal?

mantaguy said:
Both the Manta and Cheetaka pics are in decent light, and Manta is silver, the color of untreated steel, and Cheetaka is black or dark gray. The picture you came up with is in the shadow of a large building, and that is why the track appears dark.
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wat?
 
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If anything the pictures you posted from johnyupside prove my point, those ties are silver but the spine is the exact same color of the Intamin track. It is that same color of all unpainted coaster track, if you are trying to tell me they paint it all black, only to grind it and weld it, ok? I am not really tying to argue with you, keep on being wrong it doesn't matter to me either way, I am pretty sure others will agree this it is just unpainted.

As far as the transition thing, I was just saying it looks awful. I didn't say it needs to be changed, or it was a bad engineering decision, whats your deal?



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wat?
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I'm not sure what you're saying here, that looks silver to me. Or maybe I'm colorblind. The Intamin track, to me, looks much darker that the unpainted B&M. It also has a more finished look, instead of rough metal like the Manta pictures.

I was merely speculating that Busch Gardens might release a picture of track that shows what color it might be. All the other pieces could still be unpainted while they're being welded. I don't know if I'm right, I'm just guessing.

And you did say in a previous post that "the box track looks unnecessary."
 
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Look at all the track in the background.

I did say it looks unnecessary, but doesn't it? I thought structurally speaking, a triangle is the strongest shape, it seems like the rails on the bottom of the track don't really need to be there, almost like they are just there for looks which may be the case, but that is a whole other discussion lol.

I know its apples to oranges but B&Ms seem like they would have heavier trains, but far less actual ties on the track. I understand there are millions of factors that go into why the track is the way it is, but thats what I meant by it looking unnecessary.
 
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I saw the background before. And still, when I compare them, Cheetaka's track, in a well lighted room, is much darker than this B&M track in the shadows out of focus. My opinion has not swayed.

I do agree the rail transition looks like crap, but Intamin's rails and track is much thinner than B&M's, and that's why they sometimes need four rails. Intamin's track isn't solid, it's made up of little beams, so of course it needs to be more fortified. And the four rail track actually is made up of little triangles on the inside, making it very sturdy.
 
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Well if comparing those two pictures don't change your mind, I am not sure what would. But anyways, yeah the Intamin box track has triangle beams on the sides, but the middle is still a square. Do you think the bottom rails add anything structurally? They may, but looking at the track in the picture it really looks just tacked on for looks, I am probably wrong on that though.
 
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Well if comparing those two pictures don't change your mind, I am not sure what would. But anyways, yeah the Intamin box track has triangle beams on the sides, but the middle is still a square. Do you think the bottom rails add anything structurally? They may, but looking at the track in the picture it really looks just tacked on for looks, I am probably wrong on that though.
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No clue, maybe it diverts the stress better. It might just be to hold it all together. All I know is I can't tell which side is up when there's no train in the picture. :lol:
 
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Haha, if you look close though you can actually tell it is upside down like that one guy thought. If you looks closely the rails are connected to the track differently, in that picture the top rails are almost flush with the spine, but the bottom rails in that picture are a bit offset, allowing the wheels to grip the rails correctly.

I do wonder if that is a transition piece, or if all Intamin track connects to each other that way, regardless of the box or triangle track.
 
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Haha, if you look close though you can actually tell it is upside down like that one guy thought. If you looks closely the rails are connected to the track differently, in that picture the top rails are almost flush with the spine, but the bottom rails in that picture are a bit offset, allowing the wheels to grip the rails correctly.
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Oh I see that now.
 
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Im confused...are you guys saying that the actual track is upside down or that its track for an inversion. It looks like a hill piece to me with the rails on the ground.
 
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No, just saying that it's upside down right now for welding / work purposes.
 
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Found this while looking for Seaworld Parks and Entertainment trademarks. Anyone know if this is a new logo? I haven't seen it before.
 
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Not crazy about that logo, the Lion looks horrible.
 
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