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Disney's Current Approach to Theme Parks

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Nick said:
I just wish they would give Space Mountain the love it deserves. Hopefully after Tron opens.
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I think that's 100% the reason it was added next to SM and not in Epcot.
 
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The whole quote requires added context added by the writer to lead us to think he's talking about Expedition Everest. I think he's talking about a generic coaster and the choice of India was poor as it lined up with an offering the parks had already*.
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I think this is a generous reading of his comment. Name-dropping India out of nowhere seems like too much to be a coincidence -- I don't know what other coasters are out there themed to India. It's just such a specific call-out.
 
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i think for the most part he doesnt care what the online community thinks
sometimes a good thing
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This right here. I am as big a fanboy as they come, by both volume and concentration, but the fanbase isn't outraged; a fraction of a fraction of a fraction is outraged, and neither Iger nor anyone else really gives a fart in the wind about your outrage. Sorry, kids, but it's true.
 
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belloq87 said:
I think this is a generous reading of his comment. Name-dropping India out of nowhere seems like too much to be a coincidence -- I don't know what other coasters are out there themed to India. It's just such a specific call-out.
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Maybe he doesn't think highly of Rhode...I do know he's quite a loudmouth around the company and he probably fought having Avatar in Animal Kingdom (his baby) every step of the way
 
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Maybe he doesn't think highly of Rhode...I do know he's quite a loudmouth around the company and he probably fought having Avatar in Animal Kingdom (his baby) every step of the way
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off topic but he didnt
 
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Maybe he doesn't think highly of Rhode...I do know he's quite a loudmouth around the company and he probably fought having Avatar in Animal Kingdom (his baby) every step of the way
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He was actually quite on board with Pandora, but yes, I imagine Rhode is quite a thorn in Iger's side.
 
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My view: I'd rather have Disney adding all of these IP driven new attractions and lands.....then what they had basically been doing for the decade before NFL, Avatar, etc.........namely adding almost nothing.
 
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That’s a great train of thought... for Hollywood Studios and USF. Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Animal Kingdom, and IOA have more depth and nuance, and should be treated as such.
 
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RevFreako said:
He was actually quite on board with Pandora, but yes, I imagine Rhode is quite a thorn in Iger's side.
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It seems he mentioned that he is quite unpopular sometimes for his views....I wonder how Iger works with Imagineering...I'm sure someone has a quick sentence fragment of a response to add to the discussion

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That’s a great train of thought... for Hollywood Studios and USF. Magic Kingdom, Epcot, Animal Kingdom, and IOA have more depth and nuance, and should be treated as such.
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Each of these would take their own separate analysis I feel...Overall I feel appropriate IP versus shoehorned IP needs to be considered for each of these
 
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It’s time to replace disco yeti with the snow creature from frozen.
 
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This is such a wrong headed and non-Disney way of looking at the parks.

Disney used to lead the way and gave their guests things they didn't know they wanted. The real classics of Disney are things like Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Space Mountain, etc. Things that were created for the parks to be unique experiences. No one knew that was what they wanted, but it was what they wanted. Now everything (in true Hollywood fashion) has to be test marketed and show RoI in some way rather than the intangible "magic" that Disney pioneered. Every thing is focus grouped and has a cost analysis. This is how Disney will eventually kill their golden goose. They'll take away anything special and make it generic and dull.
 
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mainejeff said:
That might be true but the words "shelf life" come into play with these new IP attractions. Hope they plan on spending more $$$ in the future to replace attractions because what's hot today won't be hot tomorrow.
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There’s a reason why Disney takes its time to build something based on an IP. They want to make sure the IP had longevity.
 
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This is such a wrong headed and non-Disney way of looking at the parks.

Disney used to lead the way and gave their guests things they didn't know they wanted. The real classics of Disney are things like Haunted Mansion, Pirates, Space Mountain, etc. Things that were created for the parks to be unique experiences. No one knew that was what they wanted, but it was what they wanted. Now everything (in true Hollywood fashion) has to be test marketed and show RoI in some way rather than the intangible "magic" that Disney pioneered. Every thing is focus grouped and has a cost analysis. This is how Disney will eventually kill their golden goose. They'll take away anything special and make it generic and dull.
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I have somewhat of a more open mind about IP attractions--given that unlike IP haunted houses, you can usually add something to the storyline--heck, I've been strongly hoping for an Inside Out-Cranium Command-re-skin in the Imagination theatre. But yes, this type of thinking is...sorely misguided. Of course, Uni has the same type of thinking. The only difference is that, at least with permanent attractions, IPs have always been Uni's bread and butter sans LC. If HHN had always been mostly IPs, no one would've gotten angry when TWD et al. began (obviously I hope they continue going back in the direction of originals).
 
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I honestly think he was taking more of a crack at SeaWorld and the like, which throw a bit of theme on a rollercoaster and call it good.
 
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Joe said:
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This story just gets weirder and weirder...
 
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So this is probably one of the weirdest things we’re ever going to see from Iger - him beefing with DisTwitter.
 
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shocked he responded
 
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So this is probably one of the weirdest things we’re ever going to see from Iger - him beefing with DisTwitter.

I also don’t know how much that tweet helps as he doubled down on calling it non-descript.
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He specifically said it was NOT non-descript, Nick. I think you might have misread the tweet.
 
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He specifically said it was NOT non-descript, Nick. I think you might have misread the tweet.
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Ah, I did.
 
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