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Donkey Kong Country rumored for USH?

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Well, Mummy will leave eventually. I personally don’t foresee it leaving until the Olympics is over at the earliest as I imagine they will want as much capacity as possible. I could easily be wrong but that’s my hunch.

When that time comes, the park will be in great need of an intermediate thrill family coaster. An “in-between” coaster for F&F and Hippogriff. DK could fit that though I would argue just by looking at it it’s a hair above Hippogriff in terms of thrill. That might change once I finally go on it.
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As someone who has ridden both MCM and Hippogriff it's definitely a lot more thrilling lol. I would put it slightly below Space Mountain at DL in terms of thrill level imo. Also as for Mummy... I hope it stays. It's a classic and I don't see any reason for it to go. Simpsons, Hippogriff, Transformers should go before Mummy does
 
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I'd rather see USH get a different Nintendo property. Let Epic Universe and Japan have DKC. USH needs more exclusivity anyway.
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The Nintendo IP that crossed generations and mediums and got an entire generation hooked on anime and the GameBoy..
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The Nintendo IP that crossed generations and mediums and got an entire generation hooked on anime and the GameBoy..
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But if the rumors are true this is already coming to Japan/Florida lol. So it wouldn't be an exclusive unless they did something different than what they're doing in Florida and Japan
 
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Kirby feels too small to me. I don't know why--but it feels like it wouldn't make a big splash. I also kind of excluded Zelda due to that "Classical" fantasy being already in place already with Hogsmeade.

FFN having Splatoon inclusion would be insanely smart though.
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Well, I just had in mind that Mario, Pokemon, Zelda, and Kirby seem to be the big four of Nintendo IPs that consistently get new games.
 
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Honestly, I think Animal Crossing could be a very good fit for the park. The IP has seen a lot of growth in the last couple of years, and it has a lot of overlap with the fanbase of Hello Kitty/Sanrio, which has had very successful and popular offerings over there.
 
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I can’t find the interview, but Miyamoto said when thinking of IPs to implement, the first idea was Splatoon on Universal’s end. I think that will be the IP that comes if USH were to ever get something exclusive.
 
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Honestly, I think Animal Crossing could be a very good fit for the park. The IP has seen a lot of growth in the last couple of years, and it has a lot of overlap with the fanbase of Hello Kitty/Sanrio, which has had very successful and popular offerings over there.
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Ah that's a good idea too. It can be a good replacement for Simpsons. That would be extremely cute and probably sell just as well if they do it right
 
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Honestly, I think Animal Crossing could be a very good fit for the park. The IP has seen a lot of growth in the last couple of years, and it has a lot of overlap with the fanbase of Hello Kitty/Sanrio, which has had very successful and popular offerings over there.
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Shoot, that one slipped my mind. I'd almost argue that Kirby might also have a similar overlap. For instance, I tend to see Kirby stuff sold alongside Sanrio stuff in some shops.
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I can’t find the interview, but Miyamoto said when thinking of IPs to implement, the first idea was Splatoon on Universal’s end. I think that will be the IP that comes if USH were to ever get something exclusive.
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If this is true, Splatoon might be in a comfortable spot then, being either that or a future FFN pick, which would really fit with the festive vibes imo.
 
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The Nintendo IP that crossed generations and mediums and got an entire generation hooked on anime and the GameBoy..
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Considering how much money would be left on the table if Pokemon were not brought to USH, perhaps some sort of exclusive USH standalone ride could be under consideration.
 
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saint.piss said:
I think a Super Mario Galaxy themed ride/land could be cool for USH. I would still prefer DKC but I wouldn't be mad if we got something else like that
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AlexanderMBush said:
Honestly if we were swinging for the fences--I wonder how Splatoon would preform if Pokemon isn't an option.
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mccgavin said:
Honestly, I think Animal Crossing could be a very good fit for the park. The IP has seen a lot of growth in the last couple of years, and it has a lot of overlap with the fanbase of Hello Kitty/Sanrio, which has had very successful and popular offerings over there.
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Super Mario Galaxy
Splatoon
Animal Crossing
Kirby
Yoshi's Island

There's a lot to work with. A "catch-all" land that includes Animal Crossing, Splatoon, and Kirby would, I think, be as successful as something like the standalone DKC, Pokémon, or Zelda.

But, if I had to choose one that would translate the best to a full, standalone land, I'd go with Animal Crossing.
 
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While I am a long-time fan of the Kirby franchise, I'm not sure how well it would translate to a permanent theme park experience. It doesn't have that many recognizable landmarks compared to Nintendo's other major franchises, and I can't think of any ride system that is well-suited to an attraction based on the games.

As for Splatoon, I don't think it's currently popular enough in the United States to warrant having an attraction here. While the popularity of the series has continued to exponentially grow in Japan, I feel it's popularity in America peaked with the launch of the Switch/Splatoon 2, and it has gradually become somewhat more niche in the years since. I think it could work very well as a land with USJ though.
 
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Whats the whole big deal about exclusivity? Who cares if a ride is somewhere else too as long as it's good? I've never seen an actual real argument for it that didn't revolve around either "well I want *this*" or "it's not fair that other parks get *this*"
 
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Whats the whole big deal about exclusivity? Who cares if a ride is somewhere else too as long as it's good? I've never seen an actual real argument for it that didn't revolve around either "well I want *this*" or "it's not fair that other parks get *this*"
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homogeneity, in my opinion, makes theme parks less interesting. but yes, i'm certainly not losing sleep over it.
 
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While I am a long-time fan of the Kirby franchise, I'm not sure how well it would translate to a permanent theme park experience. It doesn't have that many recognizable landmarks compared to Nintendo's other major franchises, and I can't think of any ride system that is well-suited to an attraction based on the games.

As for Splatoon, I don't think it's currently popular enough in the United States to warrant having an attraction here. While the popularity of the series has continued to exponentially grow in Japan, I feel it's popularity in America peaked with the launch of the Switch/Splatoon 2, and it has gradually become somewhat more niche in the years since. I think it could work very well as a land with USJ though.
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The original plan for Kirby to get some flat rides and like a snack/merch stand made sense to me. Use the most recognizable iconography and tap into that built-in audience (remember, he's especially popular outside the U.S.) without devoting a bunch of real estate to it.
 
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If it does happen, it should go where stage 29 (The Monsters Stage) is.
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Well THAT triggered me...

SS28 was "The Phantom Stage", specifically built in 1924 for the original 1925 Phantom of the Opera. Mario Kart now sits upon that sacred land.

SS12 would be the "Monsters Stage" since it was used for Dracula, Frankenstein, Bride & Creature
 
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Whats the whole big deal about exclusivity? Who cares if a ride is somewhere else too as long as it's good? I've never seen an actual real argument for it that didn't revolve around either "well I want *this*" or "it's not fair that other parks get *this*"
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My big thing with exclusivity is that a lack of it can lead to an idea of USH as just "UOR but smaller."

Let's say there's a hypothetical Nintendo fan somewhere in the middle of the US and they need to make a decision about which park they're going to visit. If both parks have Mario Kart and Donkey Kong, then they're almost definitely going to choose Orlando because Orlando also has the Yoshi ride, which Hollywood doesn't, and it's a larger resort outside of the Nintendo stuff. But if UOR has Donkey Kong and USH has, say, a Luigi's Mansion dark ride, then it makes it a more complicated decision. It gives people an additional reason to visit USH and it makes USH a destination rather than just UOR with less stuff.

We saw that play out with Potter when it opened. It boosted attendance and revenue, sure, but not nearly by the numbers they were hoping. Hogsmeade in Orlando had been opened for six years by that point and boasted an additional thrill ride and Orlando also offered Diagon Alley. There was nothing you couldn't do in Hollywood that you couldn't also do in Orlando but there was so much you could do in Orlando that you couldn't in Hollywood so, unless you lived in the immediate area, why would a Harry Potter fan choose to go to Hollywood?

That's the argument for me. I want USH to become a destination in its own right rather than just living in Orlando's shadow. Unique offerings give extra incentive to visit USH over UOR.
 
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That's the argument for me. I want USH to become a destination in its own right rather than just living in Orlando's shadow. Unique offerings give extra incentive to visit USH over UOR.
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But why would Comcast care about that? If you're trying to decide between two of their theme parks, they've already got your money. People visiting Universal in Hollywood, best as I understand it, primarily belong to three groups:
  • International tourists who want to see the Hollywood Theme Park
  • Tourists to Southern California who are also visiting other attractions, like Disneyland, the beach, whatever
  • Locals
The person living in suburban Illinois isn't trying to decide where to see their favorite Harry Potter stuff. If they're planning a theme park, they're going to Orlando if for no other reason than geography. If they're planning a California vacation, Universal needs to compete against other attractions in the area. Not the Orlando park.

Long way to say that USH is already a destination in its own right, but it'll never* be a destination primarily because of its theme park offerings. Everything radiates from the Studio Tour, which will forever** be its biggest draw.

*Complete collapse of the movie business not withstanding
**See *
 
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Not sustainable from a cost perspective, either. These experiences have to be constructed but they also have to be conceived. “Pre-production,” for lack of a better team, isn’t cheap. It would be great if USH and UOR were unique experiences unto themselves with little to zero crossover but there’s a ton of reasons why that’s not the case, and even more reasons from there as to why USH tends to get the “lesser experience.”
 
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I get in a way why it didn't happen

It would have made coaster fans and families happy....so would have been nice but I get it takes up room

I just wish the minute they were like...ok no DK they started on a Luigi Mansion moving pathway ride...if they did it could be open this year before F&F even if it started later because it would be a small project that while some people would be unhappy its not a full ride...I think USH is perfect for a walking path ride because of space and Luigi Mansion fits in great plus it has a area in the MK ride as well....plus if we did get a mini land for sure I would want a King Boo Boss battle and a new band game or two.

But I've seen the DK land and its great, not for everyone but it would draw crowds at USH for sure but hopefully we can get more Nintendo on the coming years because it was a huge boost to the parks and the profits and while we might not like them EA seems to make them some money so another Nintendo land where you could keep charging that would and hopefully keep the park doing well even in the slow seasons to off set people not coming in like USH would like

Also a note from another thread....if the economy does turn and it kills theme parks attendance then thats why I push for things now and not in 5-10 years....it risks projects just falling through over USH getting some well needed love.
 
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My big thing with exclusivity is that a lack of it can lead to an idea of USH as just "UOR but smaller."

Let's say there's a hypothetical Nintendo fan somewhere in the middle of the US and they need to make a decision about which park they're going to visit. If both parks have Mario Kart and Donkey Kong, then they're almost definitely going to choose Orlando because Orlando also has the Yoshi ride, which Hollywood doesn't, and it's a larger resort outside of the Nintendo stuff. But if UOR has Donkey Kong and USH has, say, a Luigi's Mansion dark ride, then it makes it a more complicated decision. It gives people an additional reason to visit USH and it makes USH a destination rather than just UOR with less stuff.

We saw that play out with Potter when it opened. It boosted attendance and revenue, sure, but not nearly by the numbers they were hoping. Hogsmeade in Orlando had been opened for six years by that point and boasted an additional thrill ride and Orlando also offered Diagon Alley. There was nothing you couldn't do in Hollywood that you couldn't also do in Orlando but there was so much you could do in Orlando that you couldn't in Hollywood so, unless you lived in the immediate area, why would a Harry Potter fan choose to go to Hollywood?

That's the argument for me. I want USH to become a destination in its own right rather than just living in Orlando's shadow. Unique offerings give extra incentive to visit USH over UOR.
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But why would that matter to a park goer? You are basically asking for more people and longer lines at your local park. That still seems like a derivative of the "I want XX at my park". If more people are coming to a park, Comcast will surely add more to that park, right?

If I lived in LA, I'd probably want more as well, but, F&F notwithstanding, if USH asked if I wanted Velocicoaster, I wouldn't say no, it's already in Orlando, I want a unique ride.
 
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