The problem is depending on how you look at the situation, we only have confirmation that they're only adding a grand total of ONE RIDE to the park. Remy. Yes, they're adding Cherry Tree Lane in the UK, but there's nothing telling me for sure that whatever this "attraction" is for sure a ride. As we see with the Moana thing, they're playing it fast and loose with the term these days.Basically how I felt before the panel. Nice. Epcot can't get worse. But so far this project just isn't all that exciting.
It's just amazing the power nostalgia has because, even though I enjoy myself when i'm here, I also look around and feel a bit empty. I can like something and also call it for what it is and it's hard to ignore that this park has sucked for about 20 years now, if not more.
So if I'm understanding EPCOT's changes properly the Imagination pavilion now resides in the World Nature neighborhood. Anyone else worried about what that means for Imagination's future?
I'm always worried, to one degree or another, about Imagination's future.
Figment was directly referenced both in concept art and by the Imagineer talking about Epcot during the presentation, so my level of concern is not any more than its usual baseline at this point!
That's literally the conversation I had with a friend tonight who is huge Epcot fan and was basically lamenting the death of the old Epcot with today's announcements.
I was like trust me.. when this is all done, we'll be referring to the last 20 years at Epcot as "the dark ages."
If we did a poll, Imagination is probably the one attraction in Epcot we would agree on that NEEDS WORK. So if they're really listening like they say they are about our feedback and they do nothing, then there's still deaf ears in the top brass.
I didn't start going to Epcot until 97 or 98 so the park was already going downhill at that point and I was only 5 or 6. In the mid 2000's, we would take trips almost every year (or every other) and maybe I was just lucky to grow up during a time where WDW had a bunch of under built parks, and a stagnant MK & Epcot, so I never got attached to any one park (MGM was actually my favorite park growing up, but I knew even at a young age it needed improvement because of how little there was to do).You and I have had similar experiences tonight, but from the opposite ends!
I just finished a long conversation with a friend who was also following the parks panel today, and who is pretty uniformly optimistic about where the park is heading. The bulk of our conversation involved her trying to talk me off the ledge with rationales not too different from what you or @Nick have been supplying. And I told her that I'm trying to be open to change. Because I am, truly. And there are aspects of what they're doing in the park that I unreservedly like (Ratatouille, Awesome Planet, the China and Canada shows, greening-up the spine, etc.).
But it's just not easy to come to grips with the knowledge that a place that was once extremely special and meaningful to you isn't going to be (as) special or meaningful to you anymore.
I did quite enjoy his quip about adding shade. Clearly that has been a big enough complaint that he felt he needed to address it. Let's see how good his follow through is on that though.Given that Chapek went to great lengths to proclaim that what they're doing in Epcot is the result of what "we" (the fans) have apparently been asking for, they have no excuse!
So if I'm understanding EPCOT's changes properly the Imagination pavilion now resides in the World Nature neighborhood. Anyone else worried about what that means for Imagination's future?
If Poppins is a Carousel it'll be fine. If it's Enchanted Tales with Mary, we've got a problem. I'm not expecting much, but I don't think it's an Enchanted Tales thing bcThe Mary Poppins Cherry Tree Lane is cute, but if the ride is indeed what we've heard, it'll be a belly flop in the long run. .
I think that at the very least, bringing back the logos is a way of bringing consistency back in some way. Once again, this is a good start, but can not and should not be the final vision.
So if I'm understanding EPCOT's changes properly the Imagination pavilion now resides in the World Nature neighborhood. Anyone else worried about what that means for Imagination's future?
I know, it's bizarre. They should change Nature to Imagination.
That way the front of the park can have; Discovery, Imagination, and Celebration or it can be called DIC for short which is fitting because it shows how Disney have completely shafted the front and original theme of Epcot.
Imagination fits the nature aspect. How? It’s human “nature” for us to have a big imagination. See what I did there? That’s how Disney will spin it.I know, it's bizarre. They should change Nature to Imagination.
That way the front of the park can have; Discovery, Imagination, and Celebration or it can be called DIC for short which is fitting because it shows how Disney have completely shafted the front and original theme of Epcot.
I’m most excited about Guardians!Things I’m most excited about
- New landscaping throughout Epcot’s neighborhoods
- Rat
- Space 220
- New Fireworks Spectaculars
- UK Pavilion addition
- New Festival Center
- SSE Update
- GOTG Cosmic Rewind
- Moana inspired walkthrough maze
- Updated Pavilion Films
I just wish we had a little more on Guardians. I know its got a backward launch so id assume this is a bit more thrill heavy than other Disney attractions, but I still feel like we don't really know. Im skeptical on it to be honest, but also excited by the massive show building.I’m most excited about Guardians!
To be honest I don’t wanna know a thing! I want to go into the ride completely blind. Probably won’t happen for me since it’s almost impossible to avoid any spoilers this day and age.I just wish we had a little more on Guardians. I know its got a backward launch so id assume this is a bit more thrill heavy than other Disney attractions, but I still feel like we don't really know. Im skeptical on it to be honest, but also excited by the massive show building.
Ya I understand that. I likely won't watch a POV but id like some sort of reference of what the coaster will be like in terms of thrills. Backwards launch is encouraging though.To be honest I don’t wanna know a thing! I want to go into the ride completely blind. Probably won’t happen for me since it’s almost impossible to avoid any spoilers this day and age.
Im hoping the ride feels like a cool mix of revenge of the mummy and space mountain.Ya I understand that. I likely won't watch a POV but id like some sort of reference of what the coaster will be like in terms of thrills. Backwards launch is encouraging though.
That would certainly be a win in my book.Im hoping the ride feels like a cool mix of revenge of the mummy and space mountain.