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Epic Universe Expansion Speculation

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Parkscope Joe said:
1) thought the LOST attraction was for Discovery Island

2) Wicked is also a book
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1) I've heard talk of both, but it's also been a looooong time so who knows haha.

2) I'm willing to bet good money that 98% of Wicked fans are only fans of the musical and movie musical. Wicked the book fits the same niche in my head as the Jurassic Park book. At this point in time, it's only something that hyperfans dig into as another way to appreciate the franchise further. But it does not itself meaningfully contribute in onboarding new fans of the franchise. I do not believe Wicked book fans are a significant amount of any population.

The best way to go about a Wicked land imo is to make it a generalized Oz or Emerald City. Lean into the classic broadway elements and the Wizard of Oz elements. I just feel like this new series of movies' won't age nearly as gracefully long-term, between it's celebrity cast and very 2010's CGI-heavy grimdark-lite aesthetic. Wizard of Oz is the most proven evergreen franchise out there. It's close to 100 years old and it still holds an incredibly significant spot in the zeitgiest. They built a yellow-brick road in USF last year for a reason, and it wasn't because it played a massive part in these new films.

The unfortunate thing is that I doubt Universal would be chomping at the bit for another land with profit-split between them and WB. It would probably be a simulator ride with Cynthia and Ariana, and it would be exclusively stuff from the Wicked movies. And what could be a timeless, permanent land based on one of the most evergreen franchises ever made would be preserved forever in Hunger Games-aesthetic amber.

If it was just Wicked: The Ride within USF or something, I think that could fill a similar niche to Fallon or Nicktoons. Something that obviously won't last forever, but serves its' individual plot of land well for about two decades or so. When we start talking about Epic Portals, these are seemingly permanent expansions that have to carry that weight for far longer than two decades. The Wicked (2024) dining location needs to be popular relevant enough to sustain business in 2052. My grandchildren need to still be posing in the mirror of the Wicked (2024) bathrooms.

Is that completely unthinkable? No. It's a possibility. We saw a Tron coaster this decade. The Muppets are getting an E-Ticket next year. Back to the Future, Jaws, and Ghostbusters are some of the most common UDX fan requests of 2025. The Infinity Saga, which has an incredibly 2010s/CGI heavy artstyle, has a land with an E-ticket being built almost a decade after the last big event film. Harry Potter is very similar to that, and we have 3 lands now as of 4 months ago. Wicked '24 could have legs, but I'm cautious about jumping in too fast and while the hype is at it's biggest.

It's the issue with designing your park with Diagon Alley as the base. You have to be really committed to a concept, because if the hype dies, you're not just stuck with a standalone ride to replace. Every one of these lands are built to such an insane scale that a true misfire means catastrophe, especially for an expansion with the purpose of revitalizing attendance.
 
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I've always speculated that Wicked, if greenlit, would go into Studios or IOA as one attraction or a land. Epic expansions are probably another Nintendo attraction, another Potter attraction, and a Lord of the Rings land. I don't see Wicked being squeezed into that schedule. If Universal does Wicked, it will be soon, while the
iron is hot.
 
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Mad Dog said:
I've always speculated that Wicked, if greenlit, would go into Studios or IOA as one attraction or a land. Epic expansions are probably another Nintendo attraction, another Potter attraction, and a Lord of the Rings land. I don't see Wicked being squeezed into that schedule. If Universal does Wicked, it will be soon, while the
iron is hot.
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...and the quickest way to add an attraction to a park is through a live theatrical performance. Luckily, they have 3 giant theaters they can utilize.

I think Wicked can be done with an E-ticket show and a handful of shows and dining. Maybe in the long-term add a ride if the IP's popularity continues through spin offs, shows, etc. I can see Wicked being a tremendous gain to IOA's lineup while USF gets bulkier investment.
 
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UniversalRBLX said:
...and the quickest way to add an attraction to a park is through a live theatrical performance. Luckily, they have 3 giant theaters they can utilize.

I think Wicked can be done with an E-ticket show and a handful of shows and dining. Maybe in the long-term add a ride if the IP's popularity continues through spin offs, shows, etc. I can see Wicked being a tremendous gain to IOA's lineup while USF gets bulkier investment.
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and....with the 'rumor' of a new live theater show at USO next year....that would certainly be a possibility. Both USF and IOA could use a live show
in one of those three underutilized large theaters.
 
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With more than $6 billion in global receipts, the stage musical of Wicked has been seen by 65 million people across 100+ cities in 16 countries. ( Universal already is the developer and main producer)

Everything You Need to Know About ‘Wicked’ Ahead of the Universal Pictures’ Movie

Everything You Need to Know About ‘Wicked’ Ahead of the Universal Pictures’ Movie
www.nbcuniversal.com www.nbcuniversal.com

So even before the film came out, this property has made Universal money and bank and if you even look at box office/VOD/PVOD/home video numbers, the musical/stage version has outgrossed some properties with substantial presence in a Universal park.

So why does this property need to prove itself compared to others when even without the film. it has already done more than other properties within the park?
 
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Mad Dog said:
USO
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imma be that guy here… USF. USO is a very different organization. ;)
 
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I think the question of whether or not Wicked has staying power was definitively answered when the film adaptation of the 21 year-old stage musical made $750m at the global box office. This is irrespective of what we think of the aesthetic of the films (a bit washed out, definitely).
 
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Everyone wants Wicked in LC but is is literally a pink and green potter esthetic/theme. They even used Minalima for some of the Wicked merchandise. A school for Witches and Wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands right next door to a school for witches and wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands seems...redundant.

I am convinced the film adaptation of Wicked was specificlly designed to be the Potter replacement for USGB since they can't use Potter there.
 
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Disneyhead said:
Everyone wants Wicked in LC but is is literally a pink and green potter esthetic/theme. They even used Minalima for some of the Wicked merchandise. A school for Witches and Wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands right next door to a school for witches and wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands seems...redundant.

I am convinced the film adaptation of Wicked was specificlly designed to be the Potter replacement for USGB since they can't use Potter there.
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Makes it hard to put Wicked anywhere in Orlando then.

“Oops, All Potter!”
 
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Mike S said:
Makes it hard to put Wicked anywhere in Orlando then.

“Oops, All Potter!”
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That's why I think Orlando will get a stand alone Wicked attraction and not a full blown Wicked land.

I think the flying theater attraction in the NYC section of USF would be a great place for a stand alone Wicked attraction.

Sorry Jimmy.
 
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Disneyhead said:
Everyone wants Wicked in LC but is is literally a pink and green potter esthetic/theme. They even used Minalima for some of the Wicked merchandise. A school for Witches and Wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands right next door to a school for witches and wizards with choose your favorite character interactive wands seems...redundant.

I am convinced the film adaptation of Wicked was specificlly designed to be the Potter replacement for USGB since they can't use Potter there.
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What wands in Wicked? No really, point me to one.

Just build Oz, you can get both Elphaba and Dorthy invovled and still be different than Potter.
 
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Disneyhead said:
That's why I think Orlando will get a stand alone Wicked attraction and not a full blown Wicked land.

I think the flying theater attraction in the NYC section of USF would be a great place for a stand alone Wicked attraction.

Sorry Jimmy.
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Would you reuse the flying theater or tie into New York and make a show with a Broadway facade?
 
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Parkscope Joe said:
What wands in Wicked? No really, point me to one.

Just build Oz, you can get both Elphaba and Dorthy invovled and still be different than Potter.
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Glinda uses the ridiculous wand/septer in the opening scene. Madame Morrible gives Glinda a training wand at the Ozdust Ballroom and...

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Don't think Universal wouldn't create a wand for each "popular" character. Without seeing it, I would totally buy a Pfannee (Bowen Yang) wand. I am sure it's fabulous.
 
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