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Fast & Furious: Hollywood Drift (USH) - General Discussion

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I’m gonna try again tomorrow after work. I have too much FOMO to quit.
 
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Got to experience today's ops! The line was a LOT smoother, they definitely worked on whatever they needed to to get the ride out alot faster.

I even got to see a valley! They fixed it extremely fast and didn't even need to announce a delay.

What really makes me amazed is the USH community all collectively celebrating this coaster. One of the ops managing the line outside kept hyping up the crowd, "Who's been waiting all summer!" *crowd cheers*. When the Valley happened and was being launched out everyone cheered as they made it up the hill. Just incredible people.


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Considering the noise complaints, I understand both parties here.

Universal as a studio and park has existed for 114 years and the studio is probably a lot more of a concern (explosions, flashing lights, late night filming, etc.) so dare I say what did the neighbors expect? Special red carpet treatment? They are communicative and the park has the obligation to the studio as well; they are working at it and trying to get the ride shut down is just the "Old Man yells at cloud" meme.

But I also understand the neighbor's complaints too. USH has been a screen based park for decades until the switch flipped, and the park isn't really known for its high speed outdoor thrill coasters... of which there were none. I can't relate to the rich people golfing and hanging out in their backyards who expect nothing but clouds and rainbows but... don't forget they are just as human as you are lol. Their opinions, despite how out of touch you may feel they are, matter and whatever Universal agreed to they need to keep.

We could debate up and down if the complaints are just 3 really loud old people or an actual concern but this is a developing situation and I hope things work out for everyone. I want the park to succeed and I want the neighbors to feel valued by the mega corporation next door. As it stands Universal clearly cares about pleasing them, so we'll see.
 
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I’m just not sure what they can do to fix this. Other than enclose the whole coaster. Their idea of putting those glass sound barriers around the highest peaks of the ride was a good idea, but people scream at just about anything, not just the most thrilling parts.

If this ride has to operate at limited hours or capacity due to this, it will be a nightmare to get on it.
 
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Cool, so I CAN complain about loud ass police copters flying over my house at all hours of the night?lol
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Yes. You can.

Shoot, it was Korea, but enough residents around a military base complained about the constant helicopters that the local government now pays them a monthly stipend as a form of reimbursement (because they can’t move the base).

The community does have a say.
 
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For me on the noise its about what was promised, they have machines that can measure sound if its louder then expected then this is on USH

I know people want the coaster but you can't make promises and not keep them,but we don't have the facts yet so not much to say until we know what the promise was
 
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Well, I ain't on a message board for Toluca Lake fans, so I am biased towards the company that built the rollercoaster. And "concerned neighbors" have indeed caused a lot of problems around the country.

But let's be real-- they're not blocking an affordable housing development. It's all gonna be fine.
 
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Jerroddragon said:
they have machines that can measure sound
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Decibel meter ;)

Question is: could this be under the dB limit but the shrill nature stand out more? Possibly.
 
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Well, I ain't on a message board for Toluca Lake fans, so I am biased towards the company that built the rollercoaster. And "concerned neighbors" have indeed caused a lot of problems around the country.

But let's be real-- they're not blocking an affordable housing development. It's all gonna be fine.
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I grew up in Orlando. This same thing happened when Islands of Adventure went up. Neighbors close by and Dr. Phillips High School complained about the noise but...eventually...it all pretty much blew over. I don't even think there was any kind of substantial lawsuit to my memory or anything or if it was it was handled was probably handled quietly. I know they built a barrier wall that was painted to look like trees that kind of hid the coasters from clear view from the street but I'm not sure how much of that was in relation to the noise complaints or if that was just the original design always.

These articles might be paywalled but they address the same exact thing the East Coast parks went through when coasters started going up:

www.orlandosentinel.com

THE SOUND BARRIER

Wheels roar. Passengers scream. The tracks click-clack while toting carts up for another run. These are the sounds that roller-coaster riders relish at Universal Studios Escape’s new Islands of Adventure theme park. But they also…
www.orlandosentinel.com www.orlandosentinel.com
www.orlandosentinel.com

SCHOOL IN SHADOW OF NEW PARK

Universal Florida and Dr. Phillips High School have enjoyed a symbiotic relationship for years. These days that relationship is more intimate than ever. Universal’s latest theme park, Islands of Adventure, is rising from the ground…
www.orlandosentinel.com www.orlandosentinel.com
 
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Decibel meter ;)

Question is: could this be under the dB limit but the shrill nature stand out more? Possibly.
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Could be, I'm just pointing out we don't have all the info and while yes they live next to a theme park but if promises were made for me at least that makes its more complicated then

Also maybe it just rolls over but its a Rich neighborhood and if you look at the world, many times those with money get what they want more then those without and if they have the right connections can try push for something to happen. I know the public seems not on their side but the public goes against many things and in the end the money wins no matter what most normal people think. Not saying they will get anything but also want people to keep in mind this is a pretty rich neighborhood
 
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I grew up in Orlando. This same thing happened when Islands of Adventure went up. Neighbors close by and Dr. Phillips High School complained about the noise but...eventually...it all pretty much blew over. I don't even think there was any kind of substantial lawsuit to my memory or anything or if it was it was handled was probably handled quietly. I know they built a barrier wall that was painted to look like trees that kind of hid the coasters from clear view from the street but I'm not sure how much of that was in relation to the noise complaints or if that was just the original design always.

These articles might be paywalled but they address the same exact thing the East Coast parks went through when coasters started going up:

www.orlandosentinel.com

THE SOUND BARRIER

Wheels roar. Passengers scream. The tracks click-clack while toting carts up for another run. These are the sounds that roller-coaster riders relish at Universal Studios Escape’s new Islands of Adventure theme park. But they also…
www.orlandosentinel.com www.orlandosentinel.com
www.orlandosentinel.com

SCHOOL IN SHADOW OF NEW PARK

Universal Florida and Dr. Phillips High School have enjoyed a symbiotic relationship for years. These days that relationship is more intimate than ever. Universal’s latest theme park, Islands of Adventure, is rising from the ground…
www.orlandosentinel.com www.orlandosentinel.com
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Can confirm, most of the time, you wouldn't hear it in the classroom. The deeper in the school you were, the less you heard outside. The classrooms closest to Turkey Lake (where I spent most of my time), if you were outside, you heard it pretty clearly.

UO back in the day, not sure now, routinely sent tickets to residents of Orange Tree and the homes alongside Turkey Lake not part of the subdivision to help with this and garner some goodwill from them. They have also limited firework shows in the past due to it. I also wouldn't attribute all of the traffic on Turkey Lake to Universal (that would be a weird way to truly access the parks, though you're able to). As mentioned in the article, that school reached 5K kids at one point before they opened additional high schools, and parts of Turkey Lake is a two lane road that would routinely backup when I went there.
 
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Maybe Universal will postpone the opening to early winter so they can enclose more of the elements.
 
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Maybe Universal will postpone the opening to early winter so they can enclose more of the elements.
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Yeah that’s not happening lol
 
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Maybe Universal will postpone the opening to early winter so they can enclose more of the elements.
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Maybe they would after the first refurb but doing it now...would really hurt them I think
 
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I don’t think they would do something like that unless they absolutely had to.
 
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I wonder if they could fasten plexiglass shields to each individual restraint à la Maliboomer at California Adventure.
 
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Can confirm, most of the time, you wouldn't hear it in the classroom. The deeper in the school you were, the less you heard outside. The classrooms closest to Turkey Lake (where I spent most of my time), if you were outside, you heard it pretty clearly.

UO back in the day, not sure now, routinely sent tickets to residents of Orange Tree and the homes alongside Turkey Lake not part of the subdivision to help with this and garner some goodwill from them. They have also limited firework shows in the past due to it. I also wouldn't attribute all of the traffic on Turkey Lake to Universal (that would be a weird way to truly access the parks, though you're able to). As mentioned in the article, that school reached 5K kids at one point before they opened additional high schools, and parts of Turkey Lake is a two lane road that would routinely backup when I went there.
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I've told this story before, but this is probably a good time to bring it up again. Universal Orlando used a clever subterfuge concerning sound when they built the park, knowing they might have potential issues with a suburban neighborhood near by. This excerpt is from "Jaybangs" by Sam Gennawey, mostly based on his interviews with Jay Stein, the principle behind the building of Universal Orlando.

"The Universal planners were worried that noise from fireworks would create issues with neighbors. Swann got a call from Tony Sauber,who had been in the class behind Swann at Duke Law School. Swann considered him a very smart guy, and they worked together in revising the city's noise ordinance. While most of the ordinance provisions were relatively standard, they accomplished having the noise level measured at the point of receipt, not emanation (which had been the customary standard). USF planners were triumphant with the new ordinance. It was especially useful when Islands of Adventure opened because, unlike USF, it had big, noise making rides close to a school"

Different locale of course, but an example of how resourceful Universal can be.
 
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I'm surprised there's yet to be coverage on if there's softs today and/or how it's working, just would like to have some more foresight to take into next week.
 
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I've told this story before, but this is probably a good time to bring it up again. Universal Orlando used a clever subterfuge concerning sound when they built the park, knowing they might have potential issues with a suburban neighborhood near by. This excerpt is from "Jaybangs" by Sam Gennawey, mostly based on his interviews with Jay Stein, the principle behind the building of Universal Orlando.

"The Universal planners were worried that noise from fireworks would create issues with neighbors. Swann got a call from Tony Sauber,who had been in the class behind Swann at Duke Law School. Swann considered him a very smart guy, and they worked together in revising the city's noise ordinance. While most of the ordinance provisions were relatively standard, they accomplished having the noise level measured at the point of receipt, not emanation (which had been the customary standard). USF planners were triumphant with the new ordinance. It was especially useful when Islands of Adventure opened because, unlike USF, it had big, noise making rides close to a school"

Different locale of course, but an example of how resourceful Universal can be.
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Reworking it to the point of receipt and not where it emenated from is smart and takes into account reality. No one’s house is right below Hulk.
 
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While most of the ordinance provisions were relatively standard, they accomplished having the noise level measured at the point of receipt, not emanation (which had been the customary standard).
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Just want to underline that this is the case for Universal Studios Hollywood, too.
 
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Just want to underline that this is the case for Universal Studios Hollywood, too.
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Hmmm. Very relevant then.
 
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