Halloween Horror Nights 2025 (USH) - Speculation & Rumors

[Freak]

Just to add two cents, it hasn't even been a week since Blumhouse acquired the Saw rights -- I feel like the ball is too far rolling with HHN that trying to suddenly shoehorn in Saw somewhere just because they have the rights now with barely over two months to go to the event just isn't feasible (or necessary). I'm sure it won't be long until they announce what/when their plans are for the franchise, but the earliest one should ever expect to see it at the event again would be next year.

Saw is happening next year for sure. I would be fall-to-the-floor shocked if they didn’t do it again. It’s will have been basically a decade since they last did it and it was awful lol

 

[Viator]

Saw is happening next year for sure. I would be fall-to-the-floor shocked if they didn’t do it again. It’s will have been basically a decade since they last did it and it was awful lol

I honestly think if there is a chance to scramble to have some sort of representation of the IP; especially with SFMM seemingly backing out of the use of SAW at their event; that if it's in Blumhouse's ability and control that they could find a way to quickly get classic SAW represented.

Stranger things have happened at the event before, even if this would be a very small and last minute change.

 

[Freak]

I honestly think if there is a chance to scramble to have some sort of representation of the IP; especially with SFMM seemingly backing out of the use of SAW at their event; that if it's in Blumhouse's ability and control that they could find a way to quickly get classic SAW represented.

Stranger things have happened at the event before, even if this would be a very small and last minute change.

Saw is for sure happening next year, but for sure not happening this year. They’re already too far along in construction. The event starts in 2 1/2 months.

 

[chris.g]

I don’t really want Saw back as a maze, but there is SO MUCH potential if they fixated it into a Dreamworks’ Theatre experience

 

[DTH]

For a Terror Tram, you could easily throw Saw victims in there. Some traps on the head, people cutting themselves on a table -- easy. Random Jigsaw soundbytes. Wouldn't even need a full set to walk through. Not saying I think it will happen, but we have seen last second scrambles for much bigger things happen.

Also, I think I understand everyone's lament about this year's properties if we're going by last year's quality as any bearing of projection as to how this year will fare in terms of quality. It's totally understanable to be weary. I have hopes FNAF can be fun and F13 can bring back that old school feel, but in a weird way, it's totally relying on them. Fallout might be cool to look at, at the least, but I have no real desire to hang out in that world. As it is, I plan to visit Vegas, so Scarecrow (depending how much of that is the same there) is of no appeal to me. Poltergeist was okay the first time, so if it's the same repeat, meh. I hate Terrifier. WWE is silly AF, and I am a huge WWE fan, but just no. Blumtram was the only highlight for me last year, but the fact that the tram was a saving grace at all, is doubtful it can bring that energy two years in a row. Monstrous more or less kinda just felt the same last year, so it almost feels stale at this point in the way the UCM mazes started to get stale - my hope is they don't cover any familiar territory so that it fully entirely new. If someone straight up said, "I'm not interested and I'm not going," I totally would believe them at this point -- now IIIII would never personally say that as I'm always willing to give it a shot, but as it looks, I might be going only one time again this year like I did last year. Even if it is a fun time, simply because the properties have no real pull for me. I've gone at LEAST twice every year since 2011 up until last year -- HHN feels like it's trending downwards if I can just shove it away in the "once is enough" bin. Again, that's just me personally, but I can help verify that feeling others are commenting that it's not just all negativity, doom & gloom -- maybe the event will always have fans, but it's not crazy to say some of it's old school fans may possibly start dropping off the wagon.

 

[Jake S]

I used to watch more than 50 movies in theaters every year. I haven't stepped into a movie theater in two years. At some point, I had to come to terms with the fact that the movies haven't changed — I've changed. And that's okay! You're not obligated to love the same thing your entire life, and certainly not to the same degree you always have. But I don't buy that Horror Nights is in a fallow period, especially compared to those early years when so little was offered at the event.

 

[rageofthegods]

Feel like a complicating factor with BlumSaw is Lionsgate still owning 50%, which opens a whole can of worms with clearances. Saw as a couple rooms in a compilation house feels ideal for that property though, means you're not eating up a bunch of actors on random traps. Maybe a James Wan Blumhouse maze? Insidious has some rights weirdness but they can do it with M3gan and the upcoming Incidents Around the House?

Re: IP, eh. I feel I'm a fair bit younger than many on this forum, so maybe I just had to be there, but I remember the old forums back in the 10's being full of black wall complaints, and now we're getting theme park-level AA's in multiple mazes. Time giveth, time taketh away. I think WWE is corny, but a big budget Jason maze? Yes please!

 

[Clive]

This discussion about Saw is telling me that many of you guys aren't reading beyond the headlines and/or aren't following how things work in terms of incorporating IP into parks.

Blumhouse/Atomic Monster does not own Saw outright - they just now have a 50% controlling stake in it and can therefore develop new films under their label. Universal has no role in this deal. Blumhouse /=/ Universal.

In fact, Lionsgate retains its slice of the Saw franchise and reserves the right to release new films. Does history tell us Lionsgate is more than willing to work with Universal to promote its horror films? Yes, of course, which makes another Saw house or experience down the line likely, especially if/when they produce another sequel. But Universal has no vested interest in getting Saw into Halloween Horror Nights this year. Blumhouse might, but that would require working with Lionsgate and other partners to approve an appearance. Are they really going to want a shoehorned, last-minute tease as part of an attraction that will not feature Saw as part of the marketing? Almost certainly not. (I'm also surprised you guys keep assuming Blumhouse Terror Tram is a given, considering there's a lot of whispers to suggest it isn't!)

 

[mccgavin]

This discussion about Saw is telling me that many of you guys aren't reading beyond the headlines and/or aren't following how things work in terms of incorporating IP into parks.

Blumhouse/Atomic Monster does not own Saw outright - they just now have a 50% controlling stake in it and can therefore develop new films under their label. Universal has no role in this deal. Blumhouse /=/ Universal.

In fact, Lionsgate retains its slice of the Saw franchise and reserves the right to release new films. Does history tell us Lionsgate is more than willing to work with Universal to promote its horror films? Yes, of course, which makes another Saw house or experience down the line likely, especially if/when they produce another sequel. But Universal has no vested interest in getting Saw into Halloween Horror Nights this year. Blumhouse might, but that would require working with Lionsgate and other partners to approve an appearance. Are they really going to want a shoehorned, last-minute tease as part of an attraction that will not feature Saw as part of the marketing? Almost certainly not. (I'm also surprised you guys keep assuming Blumhouse Terror Tram is a given, considering there's a lot of whispers to suggest it isn't!)

It's also worth adding that the Blumhouse compilations usually solely consist of the films Universal has a stake in, and usually serve as promotional material for them. The A-list Blumhouse properties (FNAF, Exorcist, Insidious) have all gotten their own houses, so I don't see Saw being relegated to a short segment of a Blumhouse mash-up if it returns to the event soon.

 

[saint.piss]

Well this thread is really peaceful compared to the HHN 34 spec thread LOL

 

[DTH]

I used to watch more than 50 movies in theaters every year. I haven't stepped into a movie theater in two years. At some point, I had to come to terms with the fact that the movies haven't changed — I've changed. And that's okay! You're not obligated to love the same thing your entire life, and certainly not to the same degree you always have. But I don't buy that Horror Nights is in a fallow period, especially compared to those early years when so little was offered at the event.

Not to derail the thread too much but...Movies 100% have changed. Look at the top 10 films released in 1990, 2000, 2010 and then look at the top 10 of anything in the last 5 years...or even 10 years. Entertainment has weird ebbs and flows -- like a lot of people think superhero films are the new "western," except it's much different -- a certain type of film has legit gone extinct, changing the landscape of film. Mid-budget films are no longer released theatrically, relegated to streamer hell to be long forgotten among the 30 releases that come out that week. Anything that does hit, is on the radar for 2 weeks, and out of the zeitgeist almost immediately. Either a movie is $10 million or under or it's $200 million, and nothing in between is getting made. Superhero movies are fading out of popularity but the trend still stands -- big IPs only. We will probably never see anything like The Hangover, Forgetting Sarah Marshall, Jerry Maguire, or The Sixth Sense ever again. (Luckily, horror is the only genre that hasn't affected this TOO much)

As for the other point, I'd honestly take the 3-5 measily mazes HHN used to offer almost 15 years ago over the 8 mazes we get now. At least back then, they were ALL quality, 100% horror IPs, and very scary. I know that's a pessimistic view, but the event has gotten...strange and more barren. It's part of the problem with HHN chasing mainly IPs, we always knew they would run out and a lot of big corps have control over some of the bigger ones, so it's almost game over at this point unless we want to start repeating stuff. Which, if NEW means far-reaching like some of these properties, by all means -- I surrender, start doing repeats.

 

[Jake S]

Not to derail the thread too much but...Movies 100% have changed. Look at the top 10 films released in 1990, 2000, 2010 and then look at the top 10 of anything in the last 5 years...or even 10 years.

movies haven't changed dramatically between when i was watching a lot of movies (up to 2021) and the years immediately following that.

As for the other point, I'd honestly take the 3-5 measily mazes HHN used to offer almost 15 years ago over the 8 mazes we get now. At least back then, they were ALL quality, 100% horror IPs, and very scary.

except you're basically getting the same number of "100 percent horror IPs" this year as you did in 2007.

I know that's a pessimistic view

yeah, that would pretty much be my take on a lot of what's posted in this thread lol.

 

[saint.piss]

that would pretty much be my take on a lot of what's posted in this thread lol.

Yeah... it makes me feel bad for being excited. I get a lot of you are older and have been going since 07 or whatever but damn. Y'all act like current HHN has hit rock bottom. It's just evolved. Maybe you don't like what it's evolved into but that doesn't make it bad, it's just not what YOU'RE into anymore. Also, I know HHN Hollywood specifically is IP heavy moreso than Orlando, but even considering that it shouldn't really matter the IPs. I get maybe them not appealing to you might be disappointing, but at least give the houses a chance. 2022 didn't really have any IPs I was super into but I still loved that year. Weeknd turned out great and Blumhouse was awesome.

 

[DTH]

The quality has gone down as well, but that's a different conversation...

 

[chris.g]

I don't necessarily think the quality has gone down significantly, I just believe it's become too formulaic.

 

[Spookies n' Stuff]

The quality has gone down as well, but that's a different conversation...

I'd argue moreso it's just spreading itself thinner, but thats kinda out of it being a victim of its own success, the quantity of mazes have had to increase to match the increased demand and popularity, if nothing else just to have the sheer queue space to hold the amount of people buying tickets, and as such there's less budget to go around, so we get less dense designs, less scarezone detail, more conga lines, and more repeats and "safe bet" IPs. As a fan I obviously think corporate should be throwing way more money than they are, but that's business vs fandom I guess. In a sheer numbers game it probably doesn't make sense to do that unless they decided it drove ticket sales significantly, which realistically it probably doesn't.
At a certain point it just has to be accepted that it just isnt the same niche event it was in the 2000s and if it was, it probably would've been cancelled for good around covid lockdown time to save costs, if not earlier.

 

[highdefrex]

I don't necessarily think the quality has gone down significantly, I just believe it's become too formulaic.

Been going since 2010, haven't missed a year, but yeah, this is my lament -- there used to be an edge to the event back then that's really hard to describe to anyone who didn't go those years, especially if all they know is the post-COVID years. I swear, it used to be like the whole park felt like a scare zone, fog everywhere, and just had an overall bite that the event doesn't capture anymore. The edge that I fell in love with has been sanded off.

That said, I still love the event fundamentally, even when some years are weaker than others, and -- as always -- my gripes are rarely with the quality of the houses but the operational factors so many of us have brought up the past few years (the Express line madness, etc., and other things Spookies pointed out) Me being bummed is more a result of my nostalgia for an era of the event that can't come back now that the event is more mainstream (and successful) than it was back then and packed to the gills, even if I understand the necessity of it having to have become what it is now to survive.

Yeah... it makes me feel bad for being excited.

I hate that you had to write this. No one should feel bad for being excited. It sucks reading through this thread through the months only to see people express their hope for a certain IP to come to the park or being optimistic about a speculated/announced IP only for them to get crap for it as if they're wrong just because someone/others aren't fans of that IP (see: the Terrifier debate). And it feels like that's happening more and more in every arena... Love a movie you just saw? Go on Reddit, for instance, to find out why it's the absolute worst movie ever made and why you should be ashamed for enjoying it!

I've been pulling back on engaging with threads where it's page after page of pessimism and bickering lately, but just seeing this comment really bummed me out that you're probably not alone in feeling this way, and that others might not even want to share their enthusiasm at risk of being shot down...

 

[Jerroddragon]

Well sorry to hear some are not excited but.....I can tell you just for the little we have I'm much more excited for this event then the last few years

Fallout, FNAF and Jason....cool I'm already in

I'll be honest and say I zero interest in the WWE house but maybe it will be fun

 

[downunder]

I'm optomistic. I hope they plus Poltergeist from what they had previously. I haven't seen a Terrifier film, but I think they can have some fun with Art.

I've booked flights, accomodation and tickets this week so it better be good lol. Unless the rest of the mazes are all Taylor Swift themed, I'll have a good time. Not sure about WWE. Maybe there will be some surprises once everything comes to light.