I don't understand what has caused everyone to believe that Stranger Things isn't coming, can anyone explain it to me?
If I had to guess I'd imagine 6/4 and 5/5 will be the norm for the most part - aside from anomaly years like 2021.It also wasn’t a 7/3 split. It was supposed to be 5/5. Monsters is considered an IP and, because of the timing, it was easier to replace Eilish with an original than coordinate a new IP.
Here's my understanding. A moderator said that he wasn't sure Netflix was coming this year, and several other posters stated that they didn't think ST was coming either. Along with Netflix's current company-wide woes, the ball rolled from there. I don't know the moderator's history or if they are an "insider", but I have not yet heard an insider say anything about this. But the rumor has rolled to twitter and has now grown legs.I don't understand what has caused everyone to believe that Stranger Things isn't coming, can anyone explain it to me?
To be honest, a 7/3 IP/original split would not be good. IPs are supposed to get people to the event and the originals make them stay. Originals are still a really important part of HHN.As far as the IP/original split, I definitely don't see Uni ever going for something like a 7/3 split. I think 2021 was an anomaly since it could be marketed as "The 30th Anniversary" and "The First HHN since 2019"
I'm going to add to this and a bit more, but from what I have heard from people, Stranger Things isn't coming and a few more things aren't coming either that haven't been talked about yet.Here's my understanding. A moderator said that he wasn't sure Netflix was coming this year, and several other posters stated that they didn't think ST was coming either. Along with Netflix's current company-wide woes, the ball rolled from there. I don't know the moderator's history or if they are an "insider", but I have not yet heard an insider say anything about this. But the rumor has rolled to twitter and has now grown legs.
I want to agree with this, but I also recognize that pull forward demand was and is a factor in almost every industry, and we can't assume people hungry for entertainment after being starved in 2020 will continue. As much as I like originals, I personally think massive, recognizable IPs are critical to the continued survival of the event. There always has to be a hook that gets people in the door beyond the diehards, who would attend the event for the originals even if the headlining IPs consisted of The Walking Dead, Scooby Doo, Squid Games, and Iron Maiden.
While I agree IPs are critical, and have been for decades, there are definite "classes" of IP. TWD and Stranger Things were God Tier and brought in huge crowds. Something like Killer Klowns or American Werewolf were more niche, primarily a bone to fans who would likely attend anyway. I think HHN will always need the former, however it can get them. (And with the consolidation of entertainment companies, that probably means looking beyond traditional horror IPs to things like musical artists and premier horror-adjacent TV.) The latter are a nice add, but probably not critical to the event.
To add onto this - I'm sure there's a bunch of IPs that the designers would enjoy doing. I can't imagine they have too much fun designing things like TWD. Maaaaybe Stranger Things, but I imagine the first time they did it was probably fun.Horror fan properties for the horror fans creating the event. I'd quit if the only thing I could design was corporate-mandated IPs! To me Killer Klowns, the originals, original streets, etc are all the "fun" stuff that keep the designers around/coming back.
Here's my understanding. A moderator said that he wasn't sure Netflix was coming this year, and several other posters stated that they didn't think ST was coming either. Along with Netflix's current company-wide woes, the ball rolled from there. I don't know the moderator's history or if they are an "insider", but I have not yet heard an insider say anything about this. But the rumor has rolled to twitter and has now grown legs.
I don't understand how Netflix's current subscriber, and overall, company-wide issues, would cause for them to cancel a house for this fall. If anything, since Netflix is going through a rough patch at the moment, they would want to ensure that Stranger Things has a presence in this year's event, as it creates a huge amount of revenue, not just for Universal, but for themselves too. The houses aren't just because both companies mutually love the IP; they're life-sized, walkthrough advertisements for the property, and the service itself. It may be true that ST will not be at this year's event, but I sincerely doubt the reason are the numbers that were recently released that has the GP worried.
New trailer for The Black Phone just dropped. I know I was in the minority being excited by the thought of a Freaky/Black Phone house, but I'm even more excited after this new trailer. The mask designs are so good!
Movie looks great, not sure how well that'll translate into a house though. Unless they go the Exorcist route, where it's different versions of the same room.
I think it'll also help that it won't be the entire house just for this movie. But a handful of rooms with essentially the same set but different/progressive scares could be interesting.Movie looks great, not sure how well that'll translate into a house though. Unless they go the Exorcist route, where it's different versions of the same room.
With the 5th soundstage house potentially going into 21, what are the chances of 25 Years being beaten out for longest house ever?
Sometimes squeezing out the horror elements of a particular piece of work leads to a really creative end resultWhile I agree IPs are critical, and have been for decades, there are definite "classes" of IP. TWD and Stranger Things were God Tier and brought in huge crowds. Something like Killer Klowns or American Werewolf were more niche, primarily a bone to fans who would likely attend anyway. I think HHN will always need the former, however it can get them. (And with the consolidation of entertainment companies, that probably means looking beyond traditional horror IPs to things like musical artists and premier horror-adjacent TV.) The latter are a nice add, but probably not critical to the event.
I'd absolutely love to see this happen. Horror-adjacent films could lead to some really cool houses.Sometimes squeezing out the horror elements of a particular piece of work leads to a really creative end result
Films like Jurassic Park, although not entirely horror, could work really well if they leaned into the 'escaped raptor' element
Sometimes squeezing out the horror elements of a particular piece of work leads to a really creative end result
Films like Jurassic Park, although not entirely horror, could work really well if they leaned into the 'escaped raptor' element