Not to mention this ride wasn't even that rough before the refurb. If you've ridden a vekoma SLC, the headbanging on Hulk was not bad at all. It was tolerable. I even found Rip Ride Rockit to be rough, and that ride is far newer. I haven't ridden the new version, but I don't think this it could be any worse than the original Hulk, which wasn't even that bad. It was a much needed refurb, so i don't get the complaining.