Nintendo Coming to Universal Parks

[Imperius]

Not sure I understand that POV.

Yeah that doesn’t make a lot of sense. The attractions will still be elite and possibly some better stuff thrown in.

 

[rhino4evr]

The longer that it takes to announce & open Nintendo...the less excited I am about this land and its attractions.

:?:

 

[jrn14]

it makes sense to me.... Your favorite restaurant is going to open down the street next month!..... well next year... well it might open... in possibly 5 years but details are a bit sketchy right now. :Three years pass: It will definitely open in 4 more years!

 

[Antonio Townes]

He guys long time lurker figured I'd dip my toe in. I just wanted to know if this is Fake news.

Universal Studios adding major new attractions to its Orlando theme park | WFTV

 

[JungleSkip]

it makes sense to me.... Your favorite restaurant is going to open down the street next month!..... well next year... well it might open... in possibly 5 years but details are a bit sketchy right now. :Three years pass: It will definitely open in 4 more years!

Nah, it's not like that at all. If it moved to the new park it got delayed ~2 years. It's not like it's not happening. They signed the contracts. It'll happen. To me it's like saying "I can't wait for this? What? Two more years? Lol nah I don't care anymore."

He guys long time lurker figured I'd dip my toe in. I just wanted to know if this is Fake news.

Universal Studios adding major new attractions to its Orlando theme park | WFTV

Welcome!

Mario/DK moving to park 3: Looks likely (personally I say this is 100% the case)
Pokémon coming: Highly speculative, though Universal would be dumb not to consider it
Pokémon in 2020: Pure BS (IMO)

 

[AlexanderMBush]

He guys long time lurker figured I'd dip my toe in. I just wanted to know if this is Fake news.

Universal Studios adding major new attractions to its Orlando theme park | WFTV

Welcome to IU!

As for what is thrown into that,

Mario/Yoshi/DK Moving to Gate III - With the vibe here at IU, it's starting to become seemingly more likely at this point.
Pokemon coming - I will indulge that this is something that should be looked at, but that I haven't heard much of Pokemon's chances in Orlando.

 

[Antonio Townes]

Thanks f

Nah, it's not like that at all. If it moved to the new park it got delayed ~2 years. It's not like it's not happening. They signed the contracts. It'll happen. To me it's like saying "I can't wait for this? What? Two more years? Lol nah I don't care anymore."



Welcome!

Mario/DK moving to park 3: Looks likely (personally I say this is 100% the case)
Pokémon coming: Highly speculative, though Universal would be dumb not to consider it
Pokémon in 2020: Pure BS (IMO)

Thanks! It had me thinking Pokemon could be an easy reskin for Kidzone and could be done by 2020. But I call BS as well.

 

[JungleSkip]

Thanks! It had me thinking Pokemon could be an easy reskin for Kidzone and could be done by 2020. But I call BS as well.

I don't think Nintendo would sign off on a quick reskin anyway. They probably want more investment in their IPs

 

[Mad Dog]

He guys long time lurker figured I'd dip my toe in. I just wanted to know if this is Fake news.

Universal Studios adding major new attractions to its Orlando theme park | WFTV

Welcome to the Forums. :toast:.......and .. Jungle Skips' post seems closer to the truth.

 

[Disneyhead]

I don't think Nintendo would sign off on a quick reskin anyway. They probably want more investment in their IPs

The only reskin I have heard of is Villian Con. Everything else is a new build.

 

[jseal777]

The only reskin I have heard of is Villian Con. Everything else is a new build.

WHat is villain con? I’ve seen that name before but my memory is shifty

 

[captainmoch]

WHat is villain con? I’ve seen that name before but my memory is shifty

A new Minions-themed attraction rumored to take the place of Shrek 4D. I... hope it doesn't happen, as it's a dreadful idea for an attraction imo.

 

[zg44]

Based on the cost of SNW in Japan coming to $400 million+..., I'd expect that to be the kind of costs we're talking about...

These IP contracts are pretty strict in terms of required spending/building costs; SNW won't be cheap anywhere.

As for separate Pokemon and Zelda lands, those are probably a bit more fluid since they're only specific to Orlando at this point.

 

[mainejeff]

it makes sense to me.... Your favorite restaurant is going to open down the street next month!..... well next year... well it might open... in possibly 5 years but details are a bit sketchy right now. :Three years pass: It will definitely open in 4 more years!

Part of it is this. Avatarland 2.0. But also the longer it takes...the more likely that other more attractive IPs & ideas pop up. And the further that Nintendo slips from the consciousness of targeted audience. My 13 year old nephew loved Nintendo when he was 8 or 9.....now he is totally oblivious to it. And those with a fond attachment to it from the good 'ole days are now in their 30s & 40s.

I do agree that the attractions could be top notch...although I think that the excitement for this IP is going to fade as time drags on and it languishes "in development".

 

[Imperius]

Nintendo isn’t going to lose attractivness as an IP anytime soon. It’s held strong for 30+ years and is still making games.

 

[JungleSkip]

Part of it is this. Avatarland 2.0. But also the longer it takes...the more likely that other more attractive IPs & ideas pop up. And the further that Nintendo slips from the consciousness of targeted audience. My 13 year old nephew loved Nintendo when he was 8 or 9.....now he is totally oblivious to it. And those with a fond attachment to it from the good 'ole days are now in their 30s & 40s.

The Nintendo Switch is the fastest selling console of all time in the North American market. I think they’ll be okay with potential guests

 

[zg44]

I'd love to get all 3 Nintendo lands at the same time in Orlando, but staggering them over 3 years makes the most sense in terms of bringing people back to the resort for multiple visits over multiple years (which is typically how the bean counters think).

So if they do want to open a Nintendo land before the 3rd dry park, then opening like this makes sense:

2022: Pokemon in KZ (or Zelda in LC)
2023: 3rd dry park opens with SNW
2024: Pokemon in KZ (or Zelda in LC) - whichever wasn't done in 2022

The question is really whether they want to open the main SNW in the 3rd dry park first, and then open the other 2 later in 2024/2025, but that seems like an unnecessarily long delay, at some point, you do want to be earning money on these IPs... that is the whole point here.

 

[Imperius]

Give me Pokémon first! Mario Kart sounds amazing, but if Hollywood gets it first I can go there where as Pokémon would be an exclusive Orlando thing for a bit and I much prefer experiencing catching a charmander over visiting mushroom kingdom.

 

[fryoj]

I'd love to get all 3 Nintendo lands at the same time in Orlando, but staggering them over 3 years makes the most sense in terms of bringing people back to the resort for multiple visits over multiple years (which is typically how the bean counters think).

So if they do want to open a Nintendo land before the 3rd dry park, then opening like this makes sense:

2022: Pokemon in KZ (or Zelda in LC)
2023: 3rd dry park opens with SNW
2024: Pokemon in KZ (or Zelda in LC) - whichever wasn't done in 2022

The question is really whether they want to open the main SNW in the 3rd dry park first, and then open the other 2 later in 2024/2025, but that seems like an unnecessarily long delay, at some point, you do want to be earning money on these IPs... that is the whole point here.

The best order in terms of drawing people multiple times, would be Zelda, Pokemon, Mario. You do the least popular first, to get the pent up demand money. Then the 2nd most pop will get all the fans of that IP. Some of which will be ones who came the first time. Save the biggest for last, and you get everyone, some of which will be the 2nd and 3rd visit. You do them any other order and the last to open will not get the crowds that they would by doing them before Mario.

 

[Mad Dog]

Based on the cost of SNW in Japan coming to $400 million+..., I'd expect that to be the kind of costs we're talking about...

These IP contracts are pretty strict in terms of required spending/building costs; SNW won't be cheap anywhere.

As for separate Pokemon and Zelda lands, those are probably a bit more fluid since they're only specific to Orlando at this point.

But...I would guess that labor & material costs are quite higher in Japan, plus the substantial earthquake/environmental codes present. Construction is costly in Japan. That also needs to be factored in.