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The Icons and Lore Thread

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Oddfellow resurrecting Cindy for Sideshow of Decay and (presumably) owning her soul can open up an interesting storyline. Cause a drift between the Heralds and the few people they do care for? Keep Caretaker under his thumb with Cindy essentially being a ransom?

I know it probably won't be explored and is more just a "Hey we brought Cindy back!", but it's fun to theorize on the lore implications!
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Not to double-post, but now with the interview confirming Oddfellow is opening up the portals and bringing in old characters (including Usher, Caretaker, and presumably the other Heralds (going off of Laura saying we'll see other Icons throughout the zones)), almost seems like a usurping of power? Breaking them out of the Lantern and making them part of the carnival, maybe promises them freedom from the Lantern in exchange for serving him instead?

After all, Oddfellow's goal is to become the most powerful being in all of creation, so hijacking the Heralds of Fear for his own control (pun not intended) is a pretty effective step in that direction!
 
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HHN Maddux said:
Not to double-post, but now with the interview confirming Oddfellow is opening up the portals and bringing in old characters (including Usher, Caretaker, and presumably the other Heralds (going off of Laura saying we'll see other Icons throughout the zones)), almost seems like a usurping of power? Breaking them out of the Lantern and making them part of the carnival, maybe promises them freedom from the Lantern in exchange for serving him instead?

After all, Oddfellow's goal is to become the most powerful being in all of creation, so hijacking the Heralds of Fear for his own control (pun not intended) is a pretty effective step in that direction!
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Oddfellow is Rick Sanchez?

EDIT - Jack is his Morty?
 
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Adaru, the ULTIMATE LORD OF TERROR! Meanwhile Mary and Oddfellow can apparently overrule him and summon his own Heralds against his will.
 
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Adaru, the ULTIMATE LORD OF TERROR! Meanwhile Mary and Oddfellow can apparently overrule him and summon his own Heralds against his will.
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Mary at least is contained in the Lantern now. Meanwhile Oddfellow is able to casually open a portal into it to get them out!

(Let me preface- I'm not complaining, I love that he's just absurdly overpowered.)
 
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EDIT: I wonder, has A&D ever pitched a multiple icons with Jack icon concept for 25 and 31 just like Sweet 16 and marketing shot them down, or was that never in the cards?
 
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Found two rare photos of two icons from this interview with makeup Michael Burnett.
 
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EDIT: I wonder, has A&D ever pitched a multiple icons with Jack icon concept for 25 and 31 just like Sweet 16 and marketing shot them down, or was that never in the cards?
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Not really. They had the “Jack’s family” concept from 2001, but the decision to not do that was internal to A&D.
 
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Not really. They had the “Jack’s family” concept from 2001, but the decision to not do that was internal to A&D.
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Crazy to think that the name "Scary Tales" only came about because, well...
 
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Crazy to think that the name "Scary Tales" only came about because, well...
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Better off honestly. Terrorland means nothing, whereas you can kinda tell what Scary Tales means.

On an unrelated topic, I was looking at the 2006 website for fun and found this little ditty:

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Straight from T.J. Mannarino’s (or whoever else designed the website) and Universal’s mouth, the Cryptkeeper was the first ever Icon for Halloween Horror Nights. Go to hell Jack! Now if only we can get Ghostface or Springtrap as icons…
 
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I heard that this year gives Chance an actual last name in an Easter egg, can anyone confirm if this is true and where?
 
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I heard that this year gives Chance an actual last name in an Easter egg, can anyone confirm if this is true and where?
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It is and it’s in Jack and Oddfellow: Chaos and Control.
In the admitted book in Shadybrook
 
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Edit- Larry accidentally summoned Pumpkin Lord doing a fake ritual that made everything come to life.
 
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Mike Artwell worked on the tribute store designs for HHN I think.
 
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Some more musings on the Icons:

  • I’ve sort of said this before as a hypothetical “2000s what if?” but I really wonder- why don’t they have the Icons appear every year? And I don’t mean headlining the event in marketing or even in a story sense like Pumpkin Lord and Oddfellow in his original year. I mean like having them as generic “roaming scareactors” somewhere in the park or as special “meet and greets”. Is it because they don’t want to destroy the Icons integrity? I don’t believe so, as mascots the Icons never really had real integrity, and in this era of IPs the Icons have even less than that, they have zero integrity to ruin. *
  • I’m sure this is an unpopular opinion, but anyone else think it’s kinda dumb that almost every Icon are not referred by their real names but I guess stage names for lack of a better word? Names like “The Storyteller” “The Caretaker” and “The Usher” are generic names that don’t really say anything (especially if you don’t know their backstories) and are unexciting, and back then in 2009 one would probably confuse the latter from that one musician.
* also why is that The Director doesn’t appear at all in 35, and Storyteller is only seen at the RIP TOUR I think? Seems kinda dumb to me.
 
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Very interesting development regarding the Caretaker and Oddfellow's alliance in Sideshow- the cracks are starting to form. I got to interact with Caretaker and Cindy and ask what their thoughts were on Oddfellow, Caretaker is very displeased with Oddfellow trying to position himself as Cindy's father and replace Albert.

Hell, Oddfellow even made some jabs at him, referring to him as an absent father and even calling Cindy his daughter in a show moment, to which Caretaker was very taken aback and angry. Meanwhile Cindy was more neutral, she loves Oddfellow and when I asked her about him and Albert not liking each other, she gave me a "eh, it's complicated" look. Really interested to see where this goes!
 
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