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Resident Toy Story 4 defender logging on. Toy Story 5 is stupid and has no point in existing besides merchandising and Pixar flailing to remain relevant.
I appreciated seeing what was effectively a solo Woody Epilogue film after the events of TS3 and how they did their best to include so many new and different literal toy stories in that film; Lost Toy communes, Cheap carnival game toys that end up never getting won, toys that never worked as advertised, creepy and old dummies and dolls, and also an exploration in what exactly makes a toy a toy with Forky. These have all been explored in minor ways before in the previous films, but they really expanded on it in a way that worked really well to contrast a Woody who finds himself regressing to the resentful and bitter tendencies he thought he had outgrown, and in the end helping him to truly move on and grow as a character.
I have no clue what the hook even could be for a new movie. The character development well has about run dry, and as fun as spending time goofing around with the extended cast is in this franchise, the real heart of the films has been in the actual character beats and growth everyone goes through. There's a reason I don't really watch the Toy Stories short collections or whatever. Maybe it'll surprise me like TS4, but I just have no clue how it even could.
Maybe Toy Story sequels are like the James Cameron of animated movies, don't bet against them.Toy Story 4 was a very good film idk why some of y’all are beating around the bush or talking like it’s TROS.
The hesitancy I have with any Toy Story sequel is will they have a good story to tell and one that can live up to everything before it? Will the quality of the film and its writing be where it needs to be?
Everyone questioned Toy Story 3 happening in 2010… it’s possibly the best of the franchise. Toy Story 4 also provided a great ending for Woody and Buzz so that’s what I’m worried about… where do they go now while still feeling like they have an actual story to tell and the movie isn’t just being made for the sake of profit?
They’re the Tom Brady of animated movies. I keep saying they’re washed up and a few years later they’re hoisting another trophy.Maybe Toy Story sequels are like the James Cameron of animated movies, don't bet against them.
No proper TS film (Lightyear not withstanding) has below a 97% on RT.They’re the Tom Brady of animated movies. I keep saying they’re washed up and a few years later they’re hoisting another trophy.
Because its Pixar....Cars is good.....but doesn't mean I want moreToy Story 4 was a very good film idk why some of y’all are beating around the bush or talking like it’s TROS.
The hesitancy I have with any Toy Story sequel is will they have a good story to tell and one that can live up to everything before it? Will the quality of the films before it and its writing be where it needs to be?
Everyone questioned Toy Story 3 happening in 2010… it’s possibly the best of the franchise. Toy Story 4 also provided a great ending for Woody and Buzz so that’s what I’m worried about… where do they go now while still feeling like they have an actual story to tell and the movie isn’t just being made for the sake of profit?
Pixar has made five original films since Toy Story 4. The studio makes enough films to be able to do unique originals and sequels to beloved franchises.Because its Pixar....Cars is good.....but doesn't mean I want more
I want the best from them like Soul, Co Co, Up etc
Toy Story 4 is a good film but.....it really didn't need to be made and didn't have the same emotional impact as the first three films
They can...doesn't mean it will be amazing which is what I'm arguingPixar has made five original films since Toy Story 4. The studio makes enough films to be able to do unique originals and sequels to beloved franchises.
Right, and the franchise is nearly 30 years old and has had multiple films that feel like “endings.” I think all the films are excellent, and I’ve been surprised two films in a row.No proper TS film (Lightyear not withstanding) has below a 97% on RT.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It’s every bit as emotionally resonant as the other films in the series imo.The 4th Film while good and nice to look at lacks much of the heart that pushes a Pixar film to become in the amazing tier
The best film Pixar has released in the past five years is either Soul or (ironically) Toy Story 4.They can...doesn't mean it will be amazing which is what I'm arguing
Toy Story 1-3 is are pretty much perfect
The 4th Film while good and nice to look at lacks much of the heart that pushes a Pixar film to become in the amazing tier
I have zero doubts this film will be good.....but will it be Pixar amazing? I want more of those again, we have more then enough films we don't need more just good films....in my opinion
What part even got close to the trash sceneRight, and the franchise is nearly 30 years old and has had multiple films that feel like “endings.” I think all the films are excellent, and I’ve been surprised two films in a row.
I wholeheartedly disagree with this. It’s every bit as emotionally resonant as the other films in the series imo.
I think Toy Story 4 is good.....but Its just not the first three films which I think have either better messages/themes, are more emotional or funnier.The best film Pixar has released in the past five years is either Soul or (ironically) Toy Story 4.
Toy Story 4 was a very good film what are we talking about. Just because it wasn’t Toy Story 3 good doesn’t mean it still wasn’t great.
I personally preferred Luca and Turning Red, probably because I prefer when they stop trying to make road trip movies bookended by pop psychological treatises on the nature of existence and just tell stories.The best film Pixar has released in the past five years is either Soul or (ironically) Toy Story 4.
I wasn’t all that into Luca, but Turning Red was really good. Honestly Elemental was as well.I think the problem with the sequels isn't so much that they exist, but their timing. 2016-2019 was almost exclusively sequels that overperformed, whereas 2020-2023 was entirely original films that underperformed due to COVID. If there was a more regular cadence, I think people would be more ammenable to the sequels.
However, based on the current slate at Disney and Pixar, it seems like we're getting another three year run of mostly sequels outside of Elio. They seem to announce these films much closer to release than they once did, and we already know they're doing Moana 2, Inside Out 2, Zootopia 2, Toy Story 5, Frozen 3 and Frozen 4, all targeting release dates between 2024-2027. I'm sure we'll get some announcements for original films at D23 this year, but as of right now, it's not a very balanced slate for the next few years.
I personally preferred Luca and Turning Red, probably because I prefer when they stop trying to make road trip movies bookended by pop psychological treatises on the nature of existence and just tell stories.