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Universal's 6th Hotel Rumors & Speculation

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After reading through the Easement today I can say with high confidence that Aventura will NOT be a high-end hotel. As a matter of fact, it might be below CBBR in terms of price/ranking.

This is why I feel this way:

1) According to the Easement, it won't be using the Loews name. We know that Loews only wants their name on the nicest hotels.

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(the Seventh Hotel is Aventura. The Sixth is the CBBR expansion in the legal world)



2) As NJBrandon pointed out, this is the lowest priority for the reservations phone team. According to the easement, the manadatory booking order is this:

First: [Portofino/HRH/RP]
Second: Sapphire
Third: CBBR
Fouth: Aventura
Fifth: Off-site Preferred Hotels
Sixth: Off-site Partner Hotels
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Obviously you would want to book your most expensive hotel first, so the fact that it's LAST is concerning.


3) No Express. Obviously a high-end hotel would have Express.


4) The location of the hotel is unfavorable for a high-end hotel. It will most likely face the waterpark and freeway (which is great for some) but doesn't provide the luxury/exclusivity of a high-end hotel.


So it looks like Portofino will continue to be the premiere on-site hotel with Aventura being "value".
 
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After reading through the Easement today I can say with high confidence that Aventura will NOT be a high-end hotel. As a matter of fact, it might be below CBBR in terms of price/ranking.

This is why I feel this way:

1) According to the Easement, it won't be using the Loews name. We know that Loews only wants their name on the nicest hotels.

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(the Seventh Hotel is Aventura. The Sixth is the CBBR expansion in the legal world)



2) As NJBrandon pointed out, this is the lowest priority for the reservations phone team. According to the easement, the manadatory booking order is this:

First: [Portofino/HRH/RP]
Second: Sapphire
Third: CBBR
Fouth: Aventura
Fifth: Off-site Preferred Hotels
Sixth: Off-site Partner Hotels
​
Obviously you would want to book your most expensive hotel first, so the fact that it's LAST is concerning.


3) No Express. Obviously a high-end hotel would have Express.


4) The location of the hotel is unfavorable for a high-end hotel. It will most likely face the waterpark and freeway (which is great for some) but doesn't provide the luxury/exclusivity of a high-end hotel.


So it looks like Portofino will continue to be the premiere on-site hotel with Aventura being "value".
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Makes sense. CBBR is also not a branded Lowes hotel. Can' t use Lowes You Too benefits there.
 
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This obviously isn't the hotel I thought it was going to be. I am now curious about the services and amenities that will be available. Lobby Bar, Starbucks, Food Court, Pool Bar & Grill around the small pool is about all I think we'll see.
 
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From what I understand, there will be a full-service restaurant in there which is why I'm confused on how they are going to classify it(among other amenities that I'm not sure I should talk about yet).
 
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From what I understand, there will be a full-service restaurant in there which is why I'm confused on how they are going to classify it(among other amenities that I'm not sure I should talk about yet).
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That's good, I'm hearing Sapphire Falls is getting a few complaints about dining capacity.
 
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That's good, I'm hearing Sapphire Falls is getting a few complaints about dining capacity.
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Haven't heard too much about dinning at SF, but I wonder if this is just because a lot of people booked under the $150 or the $75 credit deals the had....I Sumer I can drink my credits when HHN comes around? But when I booked my stay for HHN, I did wonder how crowded the restaurants would be. We tend to be early folks, so maybe we will spend a good part of the credit for breakfast ( assuming many folks booked the way we did for an HHN visit and that many will sleep in).
 
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Haven't heard too much about dinning at SF, but I wonder if this is just because a lot of people booked under the $150 or the $75 credit deals the had....I Sumer I can drink my credits when HHN comes around? But when I booked my stay for HHN, I did wonder how crowded the restaurants would be. We tend to be early folks, so maybe we will spend a good part of the credit for breakfast ( assuming many folks booked the way we did for an HHN visit and that many will sleep in).
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Good point. I'm sure that would inflate the crowds in the restaurants.
 
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Frank Drackman said:
Haven't heard too much about dinning at SF, but I wonder if this is just because a lot of people booked under the $150 or the $75 credit deals the had....I Sumer I can drink my credits when HHN comes around? But when I booked my stay for HHN, I did wonder how crowded the restaurants would be. We tend to be early folks, so maybe we will spend a good part of the credit for breakfast ( assuming many folks booked the way we did for an HHN visit and that many will sleep in).
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No alcohol for the credit :curse:
 
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No alcohol for the credit :curse:
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That's OK. That $150 would only last some of our members a couple of hours. :lol:
 
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That's OK. That $150 would only last some of our members a couple of hours. :lol:
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Still sucks that it seems it wasn't communicated that alcohol wasn't included until just now. I wonder if they snuck it into the fine print.
 
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That's OK. That $150 would only last some of our members a couple of hours. :lol:
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:agree: more like 30 minutes for me.
 
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That's a pretty typical disclaimer that alcohol is excluded in those kind of things.
 
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(among other amenities that I'm not sure I should talk about yet).
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I say spill it. :) Considering it's just a hotel and not some new top-secret ride technology where the competition could benefit.
 
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I say spill it. :) Considering it's just a hotel and not some new top-secret ride technology where the competition could benefit.
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A really long water slide that takes you from the top floor of the new hotel & empties you into VB's Wave Pool. :lol:
 
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A really long water slide that takes you from the top floor of the new hotel & empties you into VB's Wave Pool. :lol:
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Not quite, but there will be two pools.
 
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I give Bill Davis soooooo much credit for figuring out a way to use literally every last bit of property they have on the current site. They are really packing everything together.
 
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Do we have any idea when work might start on this new hotel?
 
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Do we have any idea when work might start on this new hotel?
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Well the CB Towers are wrapping up in March, so i'd assume if it hasn't already started by then, we'll see construction start after the Towers open.
 
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I wouldn't be surprised to see it open Summer 2018.
 
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Do we have any idea when work might start on this new hotel?
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From Bio's latest pictures it looks like they are staging materials and equipment there now.
 
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