Universal's Epic Universe Wish List & Speculation

[Scott W.]

I'm curious if they trudge ahead with four or stop at three

Four parks is a lot to deal with...and there's really only one resort that has tried it

That’s been my thinking.Universal could do this but if they add a new ride every year, each park will go 4 years before an update. They’ve shown in the past, they’re not afraid to build multiple rides at once but there’s a limit.

 

[Mad Dog]

Four parks is one too many. The other three suffer in that four park scenario and don't end up all they could be.

 

[Nico]

4 really makes them compete with themselves. Especially with two full campuses. Demand would really need to be high for them to justify the cannibalization. And even then, it’s not like Disney is hurting for guests.

 

[RevFreako]

Listening to the latest Universal Joint, I wonder: with the diminishing returns on Fantastic Beasts and the issues with JK Rowling's transphobia, does the work involved with any changes to that land make Monsters land a little safer from being cut?

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

Listening to the latest Universal Joint, I wonder: with the diminishing returns on Fantastic Beasts and the issues with JK Rowling's transphobia, does the work involved with any changes to that land make Monsters land a little safer from being cut?

Doubtful. Besides, I think Monsters is safe.

 

[Scott W.]

Listening to the latest Universal Joint, I wonder: with the diminishing returns on Fantastic Beasts and the issues with JK Rowling's transphobia, does the work involved with any changes to that land make Monsters land a little safer from being cut?

I think the lands are all safe. They compliment each other to make the park feel complete. History also says that cutting lands from a park opening with the promise of being added later rarely happens and always receives a bad response.

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

I think the lands are all safe. They compliment each other to make the park feel complete. History also says that cutting lands from a park opening with the promise of being added later rarely happens and always receives a bad response.

Speaking of which, have new permits been filed yet? If the lands aren't changing, wouldn't they just have to resubmit existing permits?

 

[RevFreako]

I think the lands are all safe. They compliment each other to make the park feel complete. History also says that cutting lands from a park opening with the promise of being added later rarely happens and always receives a bad response.

I'm with you and Coot both, but the loose talk has been that if any land were to get cut, it'd be Monsters. I'm wondering if, say they had to change FB to regular Potter, would that shore up Monsters' safety.

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

I'm with you and Coot both, but the loose talk has been that if any land were to get cut, it'd be Monsters. I'm wondering if, say they had to change FB to regular Potter, would that shore up Monsters' safety.

1. I think they've already switched to Potter
2. There's no linear relationship between a diminishment of Potter, or any other land, and the 'safety' of other lands.

 

[shiekra38]

A lot would have to go wrong for that to happen. USF is much better than Epcot.

Luckily Universal has to remain nimble enough and can't rest for 20 years

 

[belloq87]

I find plenty of eerie parallels between the trajectories of Epcot and USF.

They were once my two favorite parks, and they're now... decidedly not.

 

[RevFreako]

I find plenty of eerie parallels between the trajectories of Epcot and USF.

They were once my two favorite parks, and they're now... decidedly not.

For the same reasons, though?

 

[belloq87]

For the same reasons, though?

They've gotten rid of a bunch of attractions that I liked and no longer feel like the parks of my formative trips, so yep!

But what I meant more broadly, and taking my bias out of it:

- Both have turned over their opening day attractions rosters to a pretty significant degree (with debatable results in most cases).

- Both are increasingly reliant on seasonal festivals/offerings to generate excitement.

 

[RevFreako]

They've gotten rid of a ton of attractions that I liked, so yep!

But what I meant more broadly, and taking my bias out of it:

- Both have turned over their opening day attractions rosters to a pretty significant degree (with debatable results in most cases).

- Both are increasingly reliant on seasonal festivals/offerings to generate excitement.

Fair enough. USF is my favorite park and it's not particularly close, and Epcot... isn't, so I was curious.

 

[PerceptiveCoot]

- Both are increasingly reliant on seasonal festivals/offerings to generate excitement.

USF events do have the advantage of being distinct and not just a blur of vaguely defined food and culture events that put the whole park in a perpetual festival mode.

Events at USF are great though. USF should do some Cool Japan esque fare if it doesn't interfere too much with Horror Nights construction. USJ has certain structural advantages that make it easier for them though.

 

[Frank Drackman]

4 really makes them compete with themselves. Especially with two full campuses. Demand would really need to be high for them to justify the cannibalization. And even then, it’s not like Disney is hurting for guests.

I'm on the fence. I think Disney are four parks that are pretty spread out -- current campus (to me) works so well as both parks, well, the whole campus is compact and it seems folks will get the two park ticket.

To me, if you get the 2nd campus with a similar two park model -- sure, internally you would have the campuses compete but both also offer the advantage of having two gates past security checks.

I assume at Disney, you can stay in the boardwalk area -- walk to Epcot -- change your mind and walk over to HS -- but that still takes a lot of walking and burns a lot more time than switching parks at UoR.

Therefore, I feel at some point, UNI would do alright w/ 4.

 

[TheCodeMan95]

I think Uni would be able to handle 4. Comcast seems content in dumping money into these parks, so I could see them increasing the "1 attraction per year" to "1 attraction per campus per year" in the event of having 4 parks.

 

[Alicia]

Really getting ahead of ourselves here lol

 

[TheCodeMan95]

Really getting ahead of ourselves here lol

Alicia have you seen any blueprints for the 5th gate yet? /s

 

[Grabnar]

Really getting ahead of ourselves here lol

If you buy into Universal's marketing EU would technically be their fourth gate with VB as their third...