ReelJustice
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Man, this is certainly a takeDon’t. It’s terrible
Man, this is certainly a takeDon’t. It’s terrible
My point is even with two strong IPs, October still fell off a cliff. I don't think Universal is ok with matching that -- they need that to improve. IPs alone no longer seem enough to drive that number, they have to address whatever stopped people who'd otherwise want to see those IPs from attending. I have to think the atrocious September crowds were a big factor.And while yes last year was an "abnormal" with two major IPs... you think Comcast corporate will be just ok with letting HHN drop attendance YoY because of the IP selection? Sure they might not have two strong IPs to match last year's lineup... but you can definitely bet on them doing anything to keep HHN attendance/revenue at similar levels to last year lol
I sure as hell wouldn't want to pay $100 - $120 for a single-night ticket.
Lack of capacity outside the haunted houses. I know I got pretty annoying last year bringing this topic up, but Universal has no real need to boost haunted house capacity. As a fan I'd love to have more than 10 houses a year... but realistically they have no reason to when usually 2-3 originals wouldn't receive more than an (actual, not what's posted) 30-min wait (Darkest Deal & Blood Moon would rarely exceed actual 45-min waits) during even the busiest nights. The majority of guests wants to hit up a few houses (favoring the IPs), grab something to eat, ride something and watch a show. It's usually relatively easy to do all that in one night historically, but it's become a hassle.Neither would I. But up the street, MNSSHP sells out at that price or higher. Guests see a value in it. They used to see close to that value in HHN, as crowds would explode in October. But we've hit a tipping point where that is no longer the case. I don't think it's the quality of the houses, so it must be something else.
Ding. Ding. Ding. We have a winner!In regards to the October fall off, let's not forget about them unexpectedly cutting off the ability to upgrade from ROF to FF. I suspect that there were a lot of people that were planning on doing that.
I don't think the amount of people who would have done that would move the needle that dramatically. I think Universal just became a bit too bullish on pricing towards the end of October and pushed everyone forward, which is their intention... just worked a bit too much.In regards to the October fall off, let's not forget about them unexpectedly cutting off the ability to upgrade from ROF to FF. I suspect that there were a lot of people that were planning on doing that. So it is possible that October was on track to be just as busy or busier than September before Universal made that move.
I miss early announcements badly lolIn other Wild Wacky Wednesday news:
On this day in 2018, they announced Stranger Things
Think what you want but blocking nearly everyone but the highest tier for the November dates was malpractice.I don't think the amount of people who would have done that would move the needle that dramatically. I think Universal just became a bit too bullish on pricing towards the end of October and pushed everyone forward, which is their intention... just worked a bit too much.
Gut predictions pretty hot off of the heels of HHN32:
HHN33
10 Houses, 5 Original, 5 IP.
5 Zones.
2 Shows.
Aug 30th - Nov 3rd, 6:30pm to 2 am.
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• Aug. 30 - Nov. 3
• 10 houses
• 5 SZ
• Live Entertainment
Edit- Ticket prices have also been leaked. A TA on FB posted them.
True, they were some of the best HHN nights in recent history lol. I guess they were seeing so much demand back in July (when they extended dates) and assumed those nights will be filled with single-night tickets and no need to rely on locals/pass holders.Think what you want but blocking nearly everyone but the highest tier for the November dates was malpractice.
I’d love to believe that but I shudder at how much Epic is going to be.Orlando, not just HHN, has hit a price ceiling... now it's about getting the "right level" of pricing to even out demand throughout the event.
It'll be very fascinating to see what Universal does, but I would imagine they'll just use the maximum ticket price for 1-day tickets ($179) for the first few days.I’d love to believe that but I shudder at how much Epic is going to be.
Remarkable to see HHN still have tickets priced lower than $100For those unaware, tickets and tours are available on UniversalOrlandoVacations right now.
Single day tickets starting at $88, Express starting at around $140 I believe.
Correct!There has not been any official announcement though, correct?
It is a bit surprising - but seeing Express get a pretty decent hike is interesting.Remarkable to see HHN still have tickets priced lower than $100
Nope, but if the TAs are selling them I’m sure it’s a safe bet.There has not been any official announcement though, correct?