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Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)

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I liked it. I loved all the Batman parts. I'm not a DC guy, so seeing Aquaman, Flash etc doesn't really excite me. I'm more looking forward to a solo Affleck Batman film, which I believe should have came out first before they did this.

I also didn't hate Eisenberg. I still think there's someone out there more suited to play a young version of him but I didn't hate him :shrug:
 
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I can't wait for the Cinema Sins video for this movie. So many plot holes, so many sins.
 
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I can't wait for the Cinema Sins video for this movie. So many plot holes, so many sins.
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Honest Trailers >>>

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Also, one thing I've heard like three times already is that ״Eisenberg was an great riddler."

:lol:

Now that I think of it. The movie is a lot better if you look at it as the pilot episode for the DC cinematic universe.
 
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Let me ask you a question. Who refers to their mom by their first name?
 
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Let me ask you a question. Who refers to their mom by their first name?
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I do.
 
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I do.
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Let me rephrase. I believe in MoS he consistently refers to her as "Mom."
 
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BvS got a "B" CinemaScore, which doesn't sound bad, until you realize C = F, more or less.

Sounds like normal people don't like it much either
 
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Does anybody know yet re: the upcoming solo Wonder Woman movie - Will she continue to get her WWE entrance music played every single time she appears on screen? ;)
 
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Saw it and loved it.
 
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Saw it last night, liked it a lot. I can see why a lot don't like it, but for me the movie was tons of fun. There were editing problems and Lex feels......... out of place, but it's hard to find anything else wrong with the movie. 8.5/10
 
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I've seen a few people say it's better on 2nd viewing, so take that for what it's worth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I've seen a few people say it's better on 2nd viewing, so take that for what it's worth. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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I literally have no idea how anyone could watch that AGAIN.
 
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$170.1 million US, $424.1 Million worldwide. Biggest pre-summer opening and biggest worldwide opening for a superhero movie.
 
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I was right on the money with the $170 million.

I believe what we're seeing is the Phantom Menace syndrome at play here with some of the audience reaction. I don't think it's an "awful" film, but it's not a good one. I stick with my C.

 
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I was right on the money with the $170 million.

I believe what we're seeing is the Phantom Menace syndrome at play here with some of the audience reaction. I don't think it's an "awful" film, but it's not a good one. I stick with my C.

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This isn't another Phantom Meance, you either like it or you don't. Even the movie's fans acknowledge it has some flaws in it (well, not the DC fanboys :lol: )
 
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This isn't another Phantom Meance, you either like it or you don't. Even the movie's fans acknowledge it has some flaws in it (well, not the DC fanboys :lol: )
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Only way to tell is a few years from now. Reaction reminds me of Wolverine origins.
 
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This isn't another Phantom Meance, you either like it or you don't. Even the movie's fans acknowledge it has some flaws in it (well, not the DC fanboys :lol: )
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I see an awful lot of defensive statements like when The Phantom Menace came out. You should see the vitriol being posted on comment boards about how critics "don't know how to have fun." Hell, even Ray Fisher and Jason Momoa are posting on Instagram about how critics can't act or write so they shouldn't be able to judge. Oh, and that they should just "have fun."

Eerily similar to Lucas's "It's for the kids!" defense.
 
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THE GOOD:

Ben Affleck was fine as Batman.

The last act was the best part of the film. Very entertaining; in a mindless, dumb, blockbuster kind of way.

I enjoyed Jesse Eisenberg's performance as Luthor. He plays him like an insane, mildly mentally disabled (think Aspergers) yuppie billionaire. I never once believed him as Luthor, but I'd be lying if I said he didn't have me chuckling a few times.

Gal Gadot was good as Wonder Woman (When she was in her costume).

Holly Hunter may be the best actor here, though she is given little screen time.

THE BAD:

The film is trying to tell five different stories at the same time
(It wants to be a Batman film, it wants to be a Superman film, it wants to be the catalyst for a Justice League Movie, It wants to have the battle from The Dark Knight Returns, and it wants to tell the story of The Death of Superman)
. By trying to tell all five simultaneously, it in turn fails to tell any single one of these stories properly.

The film lacks focus. This is both a Superman movie, and a Batman movie. It feels like two seperate movies forced into one single film, and they never coalesce or gel together all that well (It all feels very disjointed). It doesn't help that the film constantly jumps between our three leads (Lex Luthor, Batman, and Superman), never really letting any one character shine (Though I will say it feels like Superman gets the blunt end of the stick here compared to the other two). Between trying to tell 5 different stories in one film, and jumping between characters like it does, the film feels like it forgot to take it's ADHD pills. It all feels like one big mess.

The film doesn't feel interested in what we came here to see. It's so obsessed with setting up a Justice League film, that the film it advertised itself to be (Bats vs. Supes) takes back seat.

The film has zero plot. The first two acts are literally poor build-up (and kind of boring) to the big Bats vs. Supes fight WHICH ONLY LASTS 10 MINUTES TOPS, PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT (and what's worse, the fight really isn't all that great. Some cool parts in it, but it's too short and not as impressive and cool as you would have hoped).

This film proves just how useless Snyder is as a director. Batman Vs. Superman lacks direction (as can be evidenced by my many points above). He was unable to say no to the Studio's various demands. He acts here as more of a Yes Man than as an actual director, being nothing more than a lifeless puppet for the studio to do with as they please. He also lacked a vision for the film. It's the equivalent of a boy wanting to smash two toys together again and again and again, but he doesn't know how he wants them to clash and is told he has to create his own story for why they are clashing but doesn't know how to properly do so.

The film is completely nihilistic, cynical and dark. It doesn't seem too fond of our heroes, painting Supes as a man who wants to do good but is deeply irresponsible and ineffective (Why are people worshipping this guy again? He causes so much damage in both Man of Steel and BvS, you'd think most would have denounced him by now) and Batman as a completely deranged madman who is hellbent on destroying Supes, even if it means resorting to murder and burglary in order to do so. Most of the movie is very dark and gloomy, and not much action takes place until the final 40 minutes or so. It's a VERY dark film that deals with adult themes (I would have liked this, if the film had been tighter, more focused, and just overall better).

DC and WB have not earned their own DC Cinematic Universe. They want what Marvel has, but aren't willing to put in the time and effort necessary to create their own cinematic universe. It took Marvel eight years to build their universe, DC and WB try to do all that work in ONE SINGLE FILM. The result is about as good as you'd expect it to be, which is to say it's not....at all. They haven't earned this.

SUMMARY:

I had feared that BvS: DoJ would end up being another Spider-Man 3. A film that tried to do way too much and suffered for it. I was right, except that this film's heart is in completely the wrong place. It exists not to tell a story, but to act only as a stepping stone into a Justice League Movie and the start of the DC Cinematic Universe, which has not been earned at all. BvS:DoJ is a film that wants to have it's cake and eat it too. I say, don't let it. This film is going to make a crap load of money, and it doesn't deserve a single cent of it.

1.5/5 STARS
 
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