Yeah - I wouldn’t be so sure on that.
Fair enough, I stand corrected.
Yeah - I wouldn’t be so sure on that.
Was at Epcot last night, food booths were quite empty. Headed out at around 8PM and there were guest service CMs out by SSE asking if guests wanted to ride GOTG again. Virtual Queue was "at capacity".No rain that I saw but last night was plenty dead. A non-annoying local YouTuber (PCDev) did a video from the parks yesterday afternoon -- which were 2002 level empty -- and said friends in ticketing were urging him to go to HHN because they knew it was going to be slow. Just a trend to keep watching.
No rain that I saw but last night was plenty dead. A non-annoying local YouTuber (PCDev) did a video from the parks yesterday afternoon -- which were 2002 level empty -- and said friends in ticketing were urging him to go to HHN because they knew it was going to be slow. Just a trend to keep watching.
Is it possible there's some correlation between cheaper tickets and higher crowds? I could see people making a three-day weekend of it and staying through Monday rather than arriving on Friday.For some reason, Mondays have steadily been a busy day at WDW and Universal for the past 4 or 5 months. Even the almost two weeks that we spent at WDW in June that were very slow, Mondays were by far the busiest day of the week.
Uni and Disney hit a price ceiling a while ago and have pushed right through it. It’s not a secret anymore - major press outlets have been covering the story for a while. The only question is how painful it has to get for both guests and resorts before the corporate decision makers respond. There’s a point of no return looming…Was at Epcot last night, food booths were quite empty. Headed out at around 8PM and there were guest service CMs out by SSE asking if guests wanted to ride GOTG again. Virtual Queue was "at capacity".
I think you and I agree that Orlando has been flirting with a price ceiling for a while now. The parks are only busy because they've been shoving great FL-resident & multi-day discounts. That's why, not to derail this thread, we're surprised to see continued price increases and the rumored ticket restrictions for Epic Universe.
my understanding is there was no budget reduction for 2024, for what it's worth. some bad design choices? absolutely. but I don't think we can blame those on financial limitation.reduced 2024 budgets alter this calculation a bit
My experience actually using express was pretty much the opposite of that. We actually waited longer than a party that entered the standby queue for Monstrous at the same time as us. I know the merge position is challenging but I found it very inconsistent across the park.
ouch, that concerns me a little. it's just my personal opinion but I was hoping that next year got better with some of the zones and some of the other stuff. but if everything this year was as intended then that's kind of bad.my understanding is there was no budget reduction for 2024, for what it's worth. some bad design choices? absolutely. but I don't think we can blame those on financial limitation.
My understanding is that budgets weren't cut after they were allocated, but I don't believe we know how those allocations compared to previous years or what other park elements pulled from that allocation and overran their budgets. I believe we have fairly reliable information that problems with the parade impacted HHN budgeting somehow, though we don't have anything like exact details. I find it a bit hard to believe that budget issues didn't play a significant role in shaping the scarezones and ancillary elements like the Coconut and hotel photo-ops/ decorations. The lack of a second show, however legitimate the reasons, is also a significant savings compared to the pre-Ian era.my understanding is there was no budget reduction for 2024, for what it's worth. some bad design choices? absolutely. but I don't think we can blame those on financial limitation.
The HHN budget is its own thing. Doesn’t matter what happens with the other projects. The only impact from other projects is how Ops is handled.My understanding is that budgets weren't cut after they were allocated, but I don't believe we know how those allocations compared to previous years or what other park elements pulled from that allocation and overran their budgets. I believe we have fairly reliable information that problems with the parade impacted HHN budgeting somehow, though we don't have anything like exact details. I find it a bit hard to believe that budget issues didn't play a significant role in shaping the scarezones and ancillary elements like the Coconut and hotel photo-ops/ decorations. The lack of a second show, however legitimate the reasons, is also a significant savings compared to the pre-Ian era.
I don't know anything about anything besides what I hear in here and Twitter or Reddit or stuff,My understanding is that budgets weren't cut after they were allocated, but I don't believe we know how those allocations compared to previous years or what other park elements pulled from that allocation and overran their budgets. I believe we have fairly reliable information that problems with the parade impacted HHN budgeting somehow, though we don't have anything like exact details. I find it a bit hard to believe that budget issues didn't play a significant role in shaping the scarezones and ancillary elements like the Coconut and hotel photo-ops/ decorations. The lack of a second show, however legitimate the reasons, is also a significant savings compared to the pre-Ian era.
It doesn’t matter what the IPs are, it’s all about execution. Most of the year, y’all scoffed at Ghostbusters and Insidious - and the overall consensus are very positive for how they turned out.I don't know anything about anything besides what I hear in here and Twitter or Reddit or stuff,
but, I just hope that once the new park opens and the parade is all fixed and stuff, I just hope hhn can go back to normal. ( and the new tents are already counted for and everything.)
there's so much commotion this year.
I hope we get that Hispanic scarezone that was rumored. I hope we get better ips.
Last night, Insidious, A Quiet Place, Universal Monsters, and Slaughter Sinema were all massive offenders. I noted they cleared the express line every single time from 6 PM to 11 PM at a nearly 5 to 1 ratio. I can't speak for the other houses since I hit them a lot later and everyone was probably done with express, by that point, but it underscores that an average person doesn't have a good shot at completing all the mazes, especially on a busy night.
Back in July, Legacy postedThe HHN budget is its own thing. Doesn’t matter what happens with the other projects. The only impact from other projects is how Ops is handled.
Adjustments were made, but the theme was always the same. The only changes were SF and Hollywood.