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amar831 said:
I fear it may run into the same problem that the American Werewolf in London house had of not being able to catch lightning in a bottle for its 2nd go around. I feel the cast in the insidious house last year is what was able to bring it to GOAT levels last year
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This is the entire problem of a repeat. My favorite thing about HHN is the set design and costuming, but the cast itself makes or breaks any house
 
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As much as I’d love to see this house again, especially as a bonus 11th house, I fear it may run into the same problem that the American Werewolf in London house had of not being able to catch lightning in a bottle for its 2nd go around. I feel the cast in the insidious house last year is what was able to bring it to GOAT levels last year, and at this point I don’t think its recency bias (or it could be), but it was one of the best and most consistent houses I have ever been through. If they bring it back again and it just doesn't hit the same notes, i’ll be slightly soured on my perspective of the house as a whole.
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And there lies the one main issue if Insidious returns.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the house last year. The cast was great, and it was a consistently intense house for me, enough so that it landed at my #1. But when you're at the top, there's nowhere else to go but down if you return...and that can very much happen as it did for AWIL. Heck, the same thing happened for me with Revenge of the Tooth Fairy. Loved it in 2020, but it just didn't hit the same in 2021 and that was a bummer.
 
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I could see them just reskinning the layout and turning it into another IP or original tbh. If not, I guess it would make sense to bring it back because of RRR going the way of the dodo. Maybe it won't be as good as it was last year but it would still help a lot with capacity so... who knows. I'm hoping they're just reusing the layout and doing something different with it this year. That would be nice
 
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Midnight Detective said:
This is the entire problem of a repeat. My favorite thing about HHN is the set design and costuming, but the cast itself makes or breaks any house
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Tobias said:
And there lies the one main issue if Insidious returns.

Don't get me wrong, I really enjoyed the house last year. The cast was great, and it was a consistently intense house for me, enough so that it landed at my #1. But when you're at the top, there's nowhere else to go but down if you return...and that can very much happen as it did for AWIL. Heck, the same thing happened for me with Revenge of the Tooth Fairy. Loved it in 2020, but it just didn't hit the same in 2021 and that was a bummer.
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what if it's the same insidious house but with different characters? new ghosts or something
repeat houses could always try this. just new costumes
 
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Lucky Planet said:
what if it's the same insidious house but with different characters? new ghosts or something
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Insidious doesn't have an extended variety to choose from. Everything (ghosts/characters) from the films made an appearance.
 
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Insidious already wasn't my #1 last year, so if they bring it back I won't mind regardless. I'll still go through just as much as the others, and it would be nice to have that capacity with the loss of HRRR.
 
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saint.piss said:
I could see them just reskinning the layout and turning it into another IP or original tbh. If not, I guess it would make sense to bring it back because of RRR going the way of the dodo. Maybe it won't be as good as it was last year but it would still help a lot with capacity so... who knows. I'm hoping they're just reusing the layout and doing something different with it this year. That would be nice
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This. Even a complete repeat of an 11th house should help with capacity somewhat--a certain number of bodies will still wait in line and walk through. And it's cheap, which none of us like to think about, but HHN team need to wear their business hats when being creative. Save the budget for the 10 new houses.
 
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There are also people who didn't go last year. Being able to even get a TASTE of that house is worth it, to me.
I'm taking a group who has never done HHN, so if Insidious IS a bonus 11th house, they'd LOVE IT.
 
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Jake S said:
Yeah, while I agree that the zones and ~vibes~ were suboptimal, the houses were banging. I had a great time last year.
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Frozen Empire my beloved
 
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Midnight Detective said:
This is the entire problem of a repeat. My favorite thing about HHN is the set design and costuming, but the cast itself makes or breaks any house
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Goosebumps just thinking about walking through that red curtain room finale. I wouldn't be mad if they brought back Insidious to HHN34 with some tweaks, but everyone else already echoed my hesitation, ie the cast
 
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So thinking about announcements, what is the likely hood of nothing announced until after EU opens?
 
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So thinking about announcements, what is the likely hood of nothing announced until after EU opens?
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I really hope this is not the case, but am growing increasingly worried it will be.
 
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Okay, I’m seeing a lot more kvetching about my “Insidious is the 11th house” theory. I’m going to lay out the evidence, as I see/know it. This will actually give a bit of a peak behind my curtain, especially regarding timelines of when I hear things. Everything here is independent of HRRR discussion, and focuses only rumors, facts, assumptions, and my personal knowledge regarding Insidious and HHN.


Timeline
  • Early December, I hear Insidious could come back.
  • Mid-December, I hear 12 houses may be possible.
(EDIT - I heard these two rumors from two, completely disconnected sources. I wanted to clarify.)
  • First of the year, 10 permits drop with 24A missing.

Here’s what we (collectively) KNOW:
  • Last year, Insidious was in 24A.
  • We do not currently have a permit for 24A.
  • If a house is already built, it does not need NEW build permits if reused the following year. We can see this, specifically, from 2020-2021 where new permits did not drop for completed houses that were not struck.
  • In 2015, when Universal increased from 8 to 9 houses, they did so by returning a HOTY IP house (American Werewolf). The reception to that return is irrelevant to the logic and methodology.
  • Insidious 6 had an original release date of 29 August 2025. That date got pushed to 2026 on 30 January 2025 (so, after a decision would have been made for an Insidious house to return). That means Universal could have logically planned for the house to return as a tie-in to the new movie.
  • Soundstage 24 is a single building that can only be rented as a single space (“Soundstage 24”) USF Production Group | Stages & Backlot. It is not two different buildings.

What we can logically assume based on other evidence:
  • Because, in the past, venues with only one house did not differentiate between an A/B, SS24, if it only contains one house (regardless of size) does not to differentiate between A/B. (A lot of this is supported by my older knowledge from the aughts, but there are more recent examples).
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What I Know/What I’m Confident On (you can disregard it, but this is a lot of background knowledge from… you know… being me):
  • Striking (tearing down) houses can run into December and January. In there past, there has been as few as three weeks between a soundstage getting cleared and prep work beginning for the next year. That timeline was almost ten years ago. It would logically be much shorter now.
  • The “line” between A/B in the soundstages is ephemeral. It shifts from year to year based on the house designs. It’s not a definitive painted line used for permitting purposes (as seen in photos, and supported by Production’s rental website).
  • Changing the DECOR of a house, but not changing any load-bearing walls pr electrical (to include repainting and paneling) does not require a new permit.

Again, this is all a speculative theory. I will acquiesce a possibility that the house slated for 24A moved (potentially to 25) after plans were finalized for 24B, and so 24B was not updated for a minor administrative thing. It’s also possible that my theory WAS accurate until Insidious 6 had its release date moved, after which Universal decided to strike the house with no replacement.

While I doubt the idea that “24B as the only permit is purely an administrative mistake” (it’s too ingrained into house plans and seen by too many people to get missed like that), there is an outside chance that’s what happened.

So, there’s the logic. Again. There’s an element of conspiracy-brained cope to the theory, but the evidence aligns in a way that makes it nearly impossible for me to shake.
 
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Legacy said:
Okay, I’m seeing a lot more kvetching about my “Insidious is the 11th house” theory. I’m going to lay out the evidence, as I see/know it. This will actually give a bit of a peak behind my curtain, especially regarding timelines of when I hear things. Everything here is independent of HRRR discussion, and focuses only rumors, facts, assumptions, and my personal knowledge regarding Insidious and HHN.


Timeline
  • Early December, I hear Insidious could come back.
  • Mid-December, I hear 12 houses may be possible.
  • First of the year, 10 permits drop with 24A missing.

Here’s what we (collectively) KNOW:
  • Last year, Insidious was in 24A.
  • We do not currently have a permit for 24A.
  • If a house is already built, it does not need NEW build permits if reused the following year. We can see this, specifically, from 2020-2021 where new permits did not drop for completed houses that were not struck.
  • In 2015, when Universal increased from 8 to 9 houses, they did so by returning a HOTY IP house (American Werewolf). The reception to that return is irrelevant to the logic and methodology.
  • Insidious 6 had an original release date of 29 August 2025. That date got pushed to 2026 on 30 January 2025 (so, after a decision would have been made for an Insidious house to return). That means Universal could have logically planned for the house to return as a tie-in to the new movie.
  • Soundstage 24 is a single building that can only be rented as a single space (“Soundstage 24”) USF Production Group | Stages & Backlot. It is not two different buildings.

What we can logically assume based on other evidence:
  • Because, in the past, venues with only one house did not differentiate between an A/B, SS24, if it only contains one house (regardless of size) does not to differentiate between A/B. (A lot of this is supported by my older knowledge from the aughts, but there are more recent examples).
View attachment 25429
What I Know/What I’m Confident On (you can disregard it, but this is a lot of background knowledge from… you know… being me):
  • Striking (tearing down) houses can run into December and January. In there past, there has been as few as three weeks between a soundstage getting cleared and prep work beginning for the next year. That timeline was almost ten years ago. It would logically be much shorter now.
  • The “line” between A/B in the soundstages is ephemeral. It shifts from year to year based on the house designs. It’s not a definitive painted line used for permitting purposes (as seen in photos, and supported by Production’s rental website).
  • Changing the DECOR of a house, but not changing any load-bearing walls pr electrical (to include repainting and paneling) does not require a new permit.

Again, this is all a speculative theory. I will acquiesce a possibility that the house slated for 24A moved (potentially to 25) after plans were finalized for 24B, and so 24B was not updated for a minor administrative thing. It’s also possible that my theory WAS accurate until Insidious 6 had its release date moved, after which Universal decided to strike the house with no replacement.

While I doubt the idea that “24B as the only permit is purely an administrative mistake” (it’s too ingrained into house plans and seen by too many people to get missed like that), there is an outside chance that’s what happened.

So, there’s the logic. Again. There’s an element of conspiracy-brained cope to the theory, but the evidence aligns in a way that makes it nearly impossible for me to shake.
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Use the layout for a Silent Hill house... lol

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Legacy said:
Okay, I’m seeing a lot more kvetching about my “Insidious is the 11th house” theory. I’m going to lay out the evidence, as I see/know it. This will actually give a bit of a peak behind my curtain, especially regarding timelines of when I hear things. Everything here is independent of HRRR discussion, and focuses only rumors, facts, assumptions, and my personal knowledge regarding Insidious and HHN.


Timeline
  • Early December, I hear Insidious could come back.
  • Mid-December, I hear 12 houses may be possible.
(EDIT - I heard these two rumors from two, completely disconnected sources. I wanted to clarify.)
  • First of the year, 10 permits drop with 24A missing.

Here’s what we (collectively) KNOW:
  • Last year, Insidious was in 24A.
  • We do not currently have a permit for 24A.
  • If a house is already built, it does not need NEW build permits if reused the following year. We can see this, specifically, from 2020-2021 where new permits did not drop for completed houses that were not struck.
  • In 2015, when Universal increased from 8 to 9 houses, they did so by returning a HOTY IP house (American Werewolf). The reception to that return is irrelevant to the logic and methodology.
  • Insidious 6 had an original release date of 29 August 2025. That date got pushed to 2026 on 30 January 2025 (so, after a decision would have been made for an Insidious house to return). That means Universal could have logically planned for the house to return as a tie-in to the new movie.
  • Soundstage 24 is a single building that can only be rented as a single space (“Soundstage 24”) USF Production Group | Stages & Backlot. It is not two different buildings.

What we can logically assume based on other evidence:
  • Because, in the past, venues with only one house did not differentiate between an A/B, SS24, if it only contains one house (regardless of size) does not to differentiate between A/B. (A lot of this is supported by my older knowledge from the aughts, but there are more recent examples).
View attachment 25429
What I Know/What I’m Confident On (you can disregard it, but this is a lot of background knowledge from… you know… being me):
  • Striking (tearing down) houses can run into December and January. In there past, there has been as few as three weeks between a soundstage getting cleared and prep work beginning for the next year. That timeline was almost ten years ago. It would logically be much shorter now.
  • The “line” between A/B in the soundstages is ephemeral. It shifts from year to year based on the house designs. It’s not a definitive painted line used for permitting purposes (as seen in photos, and supported by Production’s rental website).
  • Changing the DECOR of a house, but not changing any load-bearing walls pr electrical (to include repainting and paneling) does not require a new permit.

Again, this is all a speculative theory. I will acquiesce a possibility that the house slated for 24A moved (potentially to 25) after plans were finalized for 24B, and so 24B was not updated for a minor administrative thing. It’s also possible that my theory WAS accurate until Insidious 6 had its release date moved, after which Universal decided to strike the house with no replacement.

While I doubt the idea that “24B as the only permit is purely an administrative mistake” (it’s too ingrained into house plans and seen by too many people to get missed like that), there is an outside chance that’s what happened.

So, there’s the logic. Again. There’s an element of conspiracy-brained cope to the theory, but the evidence aligns in a way that makes it nearly impossible for me to shake.
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This was fascinating to read. That's actually crazy that sometimes house teardown and construction can occur so close together.
 
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So there’s a real rumor that insidious will return this year?
 
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HHNIcon said:
So there’s a real rumor that insidious will return this year?
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Yes. I was told Insidious could return in the beginning of December.
 
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FWIW I have it on very good authority that Insidious was taken down, so if it comes back they’ll have to rebuild it.
 
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Legacy said:
It’s also possible that my theory WAS accurate until Insidious 6 had its release date moved, after which Universal decided to strike the house with no replacement.
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This is what I’ve been thinking. They had plans to keep an Insidious house and theme it to the new movie since it was to release August 29, 2025. When the date got pushed back, they didn’t have a viable replacement, so they nixed the idea.
 
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