The Acolyte (Disney+)

[ReelJustice]

Spoiler

ok I figured it out

the thing that REALLY bothered me of the question I had.
are they putting the Jedi in a negative light? they were going to take the girl by force? the spoilers I saw were making the Jedi look pretty bad. is that really happening? like they were careless or something?

Like I said before, it’s half-baked and not well-written. I think the creator’s intent is for that to be the case, but it’s not clear from the actual show. The other side doesn’t come across much better, IMO.

 

[Legacy]

Ok.

Watch. The. Show.

Jack Saint (@lackingsaint.bsky.social)

absolutely devastating post

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[Lucky Planet]

Ok.

Watch. The. Show.

I'll try to watch it tomorrow, I'll bribe my neighbor with food lol.

Jack Saint (@lackingsaint.bsky.social)

absolutely devastating post

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I don't know some of those names, but to be fair Filmento is actually amazing.

 

[saint.piss]

Goddamn. That new episode. Jesus christ. So good... but I need a breather. So brutal.

 

[ReelJustice]

Goddamn. That new episode. Jesus christ. So good... but I need a breather. So brutal.

Best episode of the series, but still some puzzling decisions.

 

[Jerroddragon]

For sure the best episode so far, its start whatever like the angles and action are just generic but once it gets going and they focus on one on one fights much better moments

The Dialogue is still...its just not refined its like they wrote it once and everyone said "good enough"

So great this episode was good because of action but none action episodes just really suck because the story, the way the story is told and dialogue just needed to be worked on more...especially for the budget of this series

Spoiler

The Sith throwing the saber and it being blocked and cuttind down trees was cool

The Padwan fighting for her life was great and she is now gone along with Yord.

The Sith and Acolyte motives really suck. The Sith just wants to use his power....which I'm pretty sure he was doing before all this considering how powerful he is and is willing to risk taking on thousands of Jedi, makes no sense just go find some planet the Jedi don't care about and you'll be good but no lets attack the most powerful people in the galaxy and think you can kill them all.

the Acolyte just flip flops what she wants...one moment she wants revenge, no now her sister.....she literally wanted the Jedi to arrest her but the moment they do she runs and fights back....just makes no sense the Jedi did what she thought they would be still resisted.

 

[SeventyOne]

For sure the best episode so far, its start whatever like the angles and action are just generic but once it gets going and they focus on one on one fights much better moments

The Dialogue is still...its just not refined its like they wrote it once and everyone said "good enough"

So great this episode was good because of action but none action episodes just really suck because the story, the way the story is told and dialogue just needed to be worked on more...especially for the budget of this series

Spoiler

The Sith throwing the saber and it being blocked and cuttind down trees was cool

The Padwan fighting for her life was great and she is now gone along with Yord.

The Sith and Acolyte motives really suck. The Sith just wants to use his power....which I'm pretty sure he was doing before all this considering how powerful he is and is willing to risk taking on thousands of Jedi, makes no sense just go find some planet the Jedi don't care about and you'll be good but no lets attack the most powerful people in the galaxy and think you can kill them all.

the Acolyte just flip flops what she wants...one moment she wants revenge, no now her sister.....she literally wanted the Jedi to arrest her but the moment they do she runs and fights back....just makes no sense the Jedi did what she thought they would be still resisted.

It felt like they took the two good action scenes from the second act of the movie, but had to keep cutting away from the first one to stretch the episode. Because we're trying to stretch a 90 minute movie to a 4 hour show. So a lot of good in that first fight (e.g. the red sabre scene) but the editing cuts its effectiveness.

Also, speaking of budget, other than one gorgeous shot, all the twin effects were straight out of The Patty Duke Show. And the whole episode looked like it was filmed on the set of Land of the Lost. For $190 million, I expect this to look at least as good as a 80s made-for-TV-Star-Wars movie, not a 60s sitcom.

I was glad to see Lyla from Dark Materials get something to do finally (she was quite good in that show, first four episodes here forgettable), and Master Sol is great when you keep him taciturn,

 

[Jerroddragon]

It felt like they took the two good action scenes from the second act of the movie, but had to keep cutting away from the first one to stretch the episode. Because we're trying to stretch a 90 minute movie to a 4 hour show. So a lot of good in that first fight (e.g. the red sabre scene) but the editing cuts its effectiveness.

Also, speaking of budget, other than one gorgeous shot, all the twin effects were straight out of The Patty Duke Show. And the whole episode looked like it was filmed on the set of Land of the Lost. For $190 million, I expect this to look at least as good as a 80s made-for-TV-Star-Wars movie, not a 60s sitcom.

I was glad to see Lyla from Dark Materials get something to do finally (she was quite good in that show, first four episodes here forgettable), and Master Sol is great when you keep him taciturn,

I agree on how most of the shoe os filmed ks pretty basic

There were moments of greatness but yeah this show like Obi wan and boba before it feel stretched out

Also good if some people like it but I don’t think this show will draw people to read the high republic books

Also maybe I’m wrong but wasn’t this show suppose to show the perspective from the Sith side? Like wasn’t that the hook?

 

[ReelJustice]

Also maybe I’m wrong but wasn’t this show suppose to show the perspective from the Sith side? Like wasn’t that the hook?

tHeY wAnT tO uSe tHeIr pOwEr

 

[Jerroddragon]

tHeY wAnT tO uSe tHeIr pOwEr

I feel like this touches on what I was talking about the writing and how characters feel like teenagers like its all basic emotional stuff that teenagers want/feel and the Most of these characters are adults

 

[Jerroddragon]

 

[Lucky Planet]

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always sunny, the funniest show of all time

 

[Jerroddragon]

I will say its insane how a good fight has turned some people's perception of the show to.....Ohh now its good

So the first 4 episodes having bad writing to many I guess means nothing as long as you have a cool fight or two.

While I don't hate the Prequels, kinda reminds me of that where people just latch onto the good and refuse to really acknowledge the really bad parts. Like many times when I point out I love Mando, I only normally say the first two season because season 3 by far had the worst writing, CDI was much more noticeable and the story kinda defeats the whole purpose and emotion impact of season 2 almost perfect ending.

I just wish Fans had.....standards instead of wanting to be on a team if something is good or bad. Like if we get more Acolyte quality shows story and writing wise...I'm just out, I'm going to finish this because its almost over but I really don't understand the appeal of the writing in this show and all I see on the positive is the fights, no one is talking about the dialogue, how its shot or characters and their motives

I think Jecki is the only character I think they did pretty well with but Yord...I mean one episode he seems like he's understanding then the next he's pissed Osha is still around, he doesn't say why and he's a Jedi why is he acting like some teenager and being all moody?

 

[lowbudget]

Having read the High Republic books and comics I'm a big fan of this time period. I like the individual Jedi or small groups of Jedi flung across the galaxy solving localized problems and fighting "small bads". Not everything has to be a struggle for the fate of the galaxy. By making the bad guy smaller, it feels more intimate and is easier to draw you into the personal story lines. I also like how you get a glimpse of the overall Jedi Order, just enough to flesh out the world but its not a looming presence, the show feels very much like its living in the moment.

But the writing and some visual styles are definitely mid grade. Some of the dialogue and acting is on par with a 25 episode season cable TV show, for this to be a big budget production I would really expect more. And the secondary story line of the coven just lands flat to me. Osha could still have an interesting story line without trying to build secondary lore and make us care about characters and events which feel like a distraction from the main story line.

So at the season mid point, I'd give it an 4.5/5 for the overall strategy and trajectory, but a 2.5/5 for tactical execution.

 

[Andysol]

Spoiler

ok I figured it out

the thing that REALLY bothered me of the question I had.
are they putting the Jedi in a negative light? they were going to take the girl by force? the spoilers I saw were making the Jedi look pretty bad. is that really happening? like they were careless or something?

I would say yes and no.

The original trilogy was very black and white. The imperial army were basically the Nazis.
Good vs evil. God vs satan. Harry vs Voldemort. Tale as old as time.
Those are all good and well.

I certainly appreciate and usually enjoy the anti-hero or more complex hero’s and villains. I like them to have good and evil elements in both of them. If that’s not your thing, avoid this show. If you’re ok with it, give it a try.

Additionally, I do understand the criticism it’s doing this after the fact to a franchise that has always been black and white good vs evil. So I can understand feeling betrayed by the franchise (but you’ve also been betrayed about 10 times by now…)

That said, I’m not a fan of this series just because it’s too sloppy for me. But I do actually like the direction of having more complex heroes and villains.

Half a million innocent germans died during WW2- it was still good vs evil in that war but there is still innocent blood on the allieds hands. That’s real life.

 

[Jake S]

For what it’s worth — the Empire is largely supposed to represent the United States, particularly following its prosecution of the Korean and Vietnam wars. George Lucas is absolutely processing what he finds grotesque actions (agreed!) perpetrated by the government of the country he clearly has an immense amount of affection for (American Graffiti!)

That’s, at least partially, why he insists it can be redeemed by “good Americans” (the rebellion) — as long as we get the bad guys out of the way (the Emperor, who could stand in for Nixon, Kissinger, etc.)

Anyway, absolutely true that there was a much less complex element to the original trilogy. But Lucas addressed that quite directly in the prequels — the “good guys” have blood on their hands.

Because that’s the way the real world works. People do good things and people do bad things. It’s much less useful to think of someone as “good” or “bad” because it flattens the inherent complexity of being human.

 

[Jerroddragon]

Caught up on the last two episodes last night

If this wasn't a film that got cut into a TV show, then my god the writers just like wasting your time

Episode 6. Mostly filler, the bad guy naked trying to get OSHA to lighten up on regulations in California, I mean turn to the dark side....who cares this makes little sense. No idea why OSHA doesn't just take the ship and run
Mei resets a droid but this means nothing because Sol already knows its her and not OSHA.
Jedi in this time seem like somehow more incomplete then the prequels.
Overall not much happens, I guess this is setting up OSHA to turn but makes little sense.

Episode 7
Flashback episode, I hope you liked the story of the witches because we are going to tell it again but this time from the jedi's perspective. Literally its an entire episode of the same crap from different angles, no idea how Torbin became a master after this screw up but....ok

I guess the Power of two is a crap power because if you are like 20 witches can't mind fight ONE Jedi master then you don't deserve to be a coven you've been wasting your time.
Wookie being taken over is kinda a cool idea but sucks we don't get ONE fight with him that isn't him mind controlled
Sol killed the Witch mom but she didn't really make it seem like they were friendly so I dont know really don't feel the impact of what this scene is suppose to me.


Overhaul I don't get how people can defend this show does it have cool moments sure but if 80% of this is just filler crap without much logic or interesting dialogue or choices then I don't get how you can really go after fans who don't care for this

I wanted this show to be Clone Wars or Mando, with us seems all these different planets and cultures and go on adventures. Instead is a slow moving story that keeps reusing the same sets because money and I really have no idea how this time really is different any other era. Like it just feels like more Star wars and not enough of the high Republic to even really justify this show

I also hear rumors that darth plagueis might show up in the finale....my god please for the love of god don't be true.

 

[ReelJustice]

Sol already knows its her and not OSHA

He didn’t know until Basil told him

 

[Jerroddragon]

He didn’t know until Basil told him

Sure but the point is the droid didn't need to be reset....it affect the story in no way because Basil tells him anyway

 

[Lucky Planet]

Caught up on the last two episodes last night

If this wasn't a film that got cut into a TV show, then my god the writers just like wasting your time

Episode 6. Mostly filler, the bad guy naked trying to get OSHA to lighten up on regulations in California, I mean turn to the dark side....who cares this makes little sense. No idea why OSHA doesn't just take the ship and run
Mei resets a droid but this means nothing because Sol already knows its her and not OSHA.
Jedi in this time seem like somehow more incomplete then the prequels.
Overall not much happens, I guess this is setting up OSHA to turn but makes little sense.

Episode 7
Flashback episode, I hope you liked the story of the witches because we are going to tell it again but this time from the jedi's perspective. Literally its an entire episode of the same crap from different angles, no idea how Torbin became a master after this screw up but....ok

I guess the Power of two is a crap power because if you are like 20 witches can't mind fight ONE Jedi master then you don't deserve to be a coven you've been wasting your time.
Wookie being taken over is kinda a cool idea but sucks we don't get ONE fight with him that isn't him mind controlled
Sol killed the Witch mom but she didn't really make it seem like they were friendly so I dont know really don't feel the impact of what this scene is suppose to me.


Overhaul I don't get how people can defend this show does it have cool moments sure but if 80% of this is just filler crap without much logic or interesting dialogue or choices then I don't get how you can really go after fans who don't care for this

I wanted this show to be Clone Wars or Mando, with us seems all these different planets and cultures and go on adventures. Instead is a slow moving story that keeps reusing the same sets because money and I really have no idea how this time really is different any other era. Like it just feels like more Star wars and not enough of the high Republic to even really justify this show

I also hear rumors that darth plagueis might show up in the finale....my god please for the love of god don't be true.

but would it have worked as a movie?