The Hollywood merch also says to be continued, as both resorts will continue to add new offerings -or- your epic vacations to the resorts will also the continued. Take your pick.To be continued?? :wow:
The Hollywood merch also says to be continued, as both resorts will continue to add new offerings -or- your epic vacations to the resorts will also the continued. Take your pick.To be continued?? :wow:
I agree with you. That's why I've always said a 4th dry park, if there ever will even be one, is so far into the future it's not worth discussing. Heck, Disney's always had issues trying to have enough attractions for 4 dry parks. In reality they probably only have enough attractions for a good three dry parks. I've never thought four dry parks for Universal was a feasible idea, at least at this point in time. Three may well be the 'perfect number'.I'm starting to feel fairly pessimistic about whether a fourth dry park is actually in Universal's mid to long range plans.
In the context of theme park resorts, they actually don't have that much land suitable for building, especially once roads (Kirkman and internal), future parking, and the planned massive backstage area are taken into account.
The proposed infrastructure plans leave just enough space where the parking lot is for another dry park, but that would leave no room for a water park or directly connected hotels. This isn't a huge issue - hotels can easily be done on disconnected parcels, except that if they want to have enough hotel rooms to support four dry parks they will need more land, and they have publicly shown no initiative of the sort, letting options like the large Artegon Mall site pass them by.
The seeming lack of concern for additional land acquisition makes much more sense if they intend for the remaining 80-90 acres of the new resort to just be a water park and a couple of hotels. One less dry park lowers the number of rooms needed to have a balanced resort, and getting more hotel rooms in the contiguous area means that they will likely be able to fit most of the remaining rooms needed on land they already own.
I know that insiders have spoke of 4 parks being the long term vision, but looking at universal's recent actions I'm not seeing a whole lot that supports that theory, at least on this land.
You full of all sorts of stuff lately. Been visiting with old friends over the holidays?Tired: 4th Universal dry park
Wired: 5th Universal dry park
I think what I'm trying to say is that they are not keeping it flexible. They're inefficiently using the land they have, and they aren't aggressively trying to get other available land in the area, something which would be necessary to support a resort with 4 dry parks.I don't think the company knows that far out at this point. It seems that's why they're trying to keep it flexible. It'll start with the park, some shops and restaurants, and a hotel or two. It depends on how all that goes to see where they go next, in the mean time they'll need to continue improving the existing parks. But it does make sense they'll want to put hotels along the perimeter near the lakes. That shrinks the space even more so, it could end up being just another waterpark and possibly smaller separately ticketed attractions like shows or some sort of interactive experiences.
A 4th dry park wouldn’t begin physical development until 10 years the opening of P4rk at the earliest. It’s more likely to be 15-20 years down the road.
So much can change between now and then.
Yeah, space starts to become a major issue if they aren't going to be as aggressive about finding nearby lots for hotel space.I'm starting to feel fairly pessimistic about whether a fourth dry park is actually in Universal's mid to long range plans.
In the context of theme park resorts, they actually don't have that much land suitable for building, especially once roads (Kirkman and internal), future parking, and the planned massive backstage area are taken into account.
The proposed infrastructure plans leave just enough space where the parking lot is for another dry park, but that would leave no room for a water park or directly connected hotels. This isn't a huge issue - hotels can easily be done on disconnected parcels, except that if they want to have enough hotel rooms to support four dry parks they will need more land, and they have publicly shown no initiative of the sort, letting options like the large Artegon Mall site pass them by.
The seeming lack of concern for additional land acquisition makes much more sense if they intend for the remaining 80-90 acres of the new resort to just be a water park and a couple of hotels. One less dry park lowers the number of rooms needed to have a balanced resort, and getting more hotel rooms in the contiguous area means that they will likely be able to fit most of the remaining rooms needed on land they already own.
I know that insiders have spoke of 4 parks being the long term vision, but looking at universal's recent actions I'm not seeing a whole lot that supports that theory, at least on this land.
Yeah, space starts to become a major issue if they aren't going to be as aggressive about finding nearby lots for hotel space.
The conclusion though is still pretty simple; if a 4th dry park isn't in the long-term plans for the current land, then it's probably planned for Lockheed Martin's land if they ever leave.
I'm perfectly okay with that even though it probably means that a 4th dry park is going to have to be discussed in 20-30 year terms.
To put it another way: Universal is focusing on making the third park the best it can be for 2022.
The amount of things that can change and start between opening FW and a hypothetical fourth park is monumental. Look how much changed and started since IOA was being built that is now being added to the parks: Harry Potter, F&F, Pokemon, etc.
Discussing a fourth park at this point is putting the cart so far ahead of the horse you’ve run over said horse and the next mile of travelers ahead of you.
I’m in the camp that says the fourth dry park will be located where SeaWorld Orlando currently sits. That place is done for if the third park is anywhere near as good as what people think it will be.
Aquatica will be absorbed into Universal’s water parks and Discovery Cove could remain as is if Universal is willing to keep it going to boost their offerings.
Another water park makes the most sense. I'm sure the new park will be built with plenty of expansion pads left open and VB needs relief. As @Joe said, who knows if Lockheed will be here still in 20+ years so maybe a park can go there eventually, but in the here and now I think a third dry park and 2nd water park would make the most sense.Anything I've heard about a 4th park was going to be small - so either another water park or a small niche-type park. Their big plans were always for the next one.
Why isn’t Mummy on there? :thud:New shirt available in various merch locations...thought of the new expansions and the use of the word "epic"
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised that if they ever do a 4th dry park and there's only around 40-50 acres left, then they may go the route of just making a smaller 4th dry park like Warner Movie World in Abu Dhabi.Anything I've heard about a 4th park was going to be small - so either another water park or a small niche-type park. Their big plans were always for the next one.