Did anyone else get a Donald Trump vibe from Max Lord?
Businessman --> TV Personality --> President
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The "invisible jet" was something specifically created in the Super Friends cartoon. A lot of her outfits, using the tiara as a boomerang, the Washington DC setting, and the presence of Steve (30 years later in the case of the TV show, 60 years later in the case of the movie) all were callbacks to the TV show, along with the reveal at the end.Genuine question as someone who grew up on the cartoons and live-action show--what elements? I thought a lot of the movie had the vibe of the Salkind Superman movies of that era, but didn't see anything directly culled from TV.
The invisible jet debuted in the comics in 1942. The original Cheetah (Priscilla Ruth) debuted in 1943. Her original comic also took place in Washington DC. Those weren’t elements created for the cartoon. (And though I can’t find the first time she boomeranged her tiara, the 30 year gap between the comic debut and the cartoon/TV show make me confident that originated in the comics as well).The "invisible jet" and the Cheetah character were something specifically created in the Super Friends cartoon. A lot of her outfits, using the tiara as a boomerang, the Washington DC setting, and the presence of Steve (30 years later in the case of the TV show, 60 years later in the case of the movie) all were callbacks to the TV show, along with the reveal at the end.
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My wife just said, basically, this exact same thing.The more I think about the movie, the more I hate the plot's absurdity.
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The invisible jet debuted in the comics in 1942. The original Cheetah (Priscilla Ruth) debuted in 1943. Her original comic also took place in Washington DC. Those weren’t elements created for the cartoon. (And though I can’t find the first time she boomeranged her tiara, the 30 year gap between the comic debut and the cartoon/TV show make me confident that originated in the comics as well).
I’ll agree the tone felt like a throwback (for both good and back), but Lynda Carter was big nod. Everything else has a comics origin.
I'm in the minority but I liked it...lolWowza. I haven't even seen the movie, but it's amazing to me how the first Wonder Woman was the film that "saved" the early DCEU and now this one is getting savagely ripped to shreds.
Don’t kid yourself, WW3 was not greenlit based on its release. It was very likely greenlit months and months ago. It’s just a good PR play to announce it right after release. Patty Jenkins may have asked them to guarantee her a third movie when they told her it was going to HBO Max. There may even be a rough draft of a script for the film in the works.Which might be why a third film is in the works
I'm in the minority but I liked it...lol
For sure its better than JL, Batman vs Superman and the first superman but thats just me...I like the villains and the morals of the story...but I also understand its crazy...though its no more crazy then time traveling to get stones to redo the universe just people don't like how this was filmed.
Steve Trevor (the character) debuted in ‘41 with Wonder Woman as, basically, the male equivalent to Lois Lane (dude in distress). In the 50s/60s, the roles shifted some, with Diana pining after him like crazy. In ‘68, she gave up her powers to be with him. Then he died in the next issue. He was then resurrected in ‘75 (which was likely planned by DC a couple of years prior) “in a different body.”Okay, maybe you can help me because this is driving me mad...
Was the Steve Trevor Thing from the comics? Or was it invented for the movie?
Hard disagree...to me its the worst Batman since the bad 90's film. Superman is also just boring and plenty of the animated shows/films show he is not some boring character. I just fall on the side on not like the three movies with Superman in them and thinking WW is the best new DC film, followed by Shazam, then Aquaman and for me I would watch WW84 over JL or BVS every day but thats just me I would have walked out of Justice league if I wasn't with friends.I feel like Batman vs Superman and superman was a little more respectful to the characters and to the audience, this movie is pretty bad to these characters and the audience lol. some scenes are very bad. some stereotypes were bad. the stuff with Diana and Steve is problematic (Handsome man, really?)
i also cannot believe in 2020 we got the riddler from batman forever and the CGI from CATS in the same character lol. cheetah is double awful lol.
at least the characters in BvS werent as bad as cheetah lol. (not even lex luthor)
Maxwell wasn't even a proper villain, he seemed like a loving father to the boy, his goals were all over the place, the rules set up by the movie make no sense and are broken constantly, the action scene with the car chase was kinda incoherent.
i saw your comment of BvS but in that movie it at least made sense.
I'm in the minority but I liked it...lol
For sure its better than JL, Batman vs Superman and the first superman but thats just me...I like the villains and the morals of the story...but I also understand its crazy...though its no more crazy then time traveling to get stones to redo the universe just people don't like how this was filmed.
The action is cool but not as good as the first, I like the setting but people think its pointless...yet I think Stranger things over does the "we are in the 80s" this feels more like a film in the 80s and doesn't need pet rocks in my face to sell that.
Steve Trevor (the character) debuted in ‘41 with Wonder Woman as, basically, the male equivalent to Lois Lane (dude in distress). In the 50s/60s, the roles shifted some, with Diana pining after him like crazy. In ‘68, she gave up her powers to be with him. Then he died in the next issue. He was then resurrected in ‘75 (which was likely planned by DC a couple of years prior) “in a different body.”
Could be wrong but the way they phrase it in the movie is like how he asked for health....other people's payments were to give her power. So it was less about a real second wish and him personally giving her power like how he was getting health back.It's not about what crazier, it's what makes sense for the film. The film can do whatever it wants as long as it sets the rules and sticks to em. Those rules can't change when it's convenient for the plot. (i.e. Clarifying that you can only make 1 wish - but allowing Barbara a 2nd because of "generosity") It's a consistent issue throughout the film.
When the title highlights "84" and marketing stresses all the 80s nostalgia - you gotta dip the toes in a lot more than what they did. Ultimately, the time it took place meant nothing. They could've done a lot more with the Cold War and other early 80s callbacks but instead was just used for Steve's fish out of water clothing montage. Anything else that was featured in the film could have taken place in any other timeframe and it wouldn't have made a difference.
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I wasn't big on DC as Marvel (except Batman) so I'm in the dark for most of that stuff.