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Is that why there was an orange digger on the slither of land between the a421 and Woburn Road opposite where the pub used to be?
I’m guessing it’s this thing?
Woburn Road Energy Storage - Gridsource
gridsource.co.uk
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Watched @ProjectUniversalUK 's new video. Seems like they took a sample from the big dirt pile and doing a borehole. For those more informed, is it normal to do a borehole on an old industrial site? I assume it's to make sure the ground wasn't contaminated or anything.
Just seen a picture from a soap star on instagram from the national television awards 2023.
Random I know but the backdrop where the celebs have their photos taken had the sponsors listed.
Universal Destinations & Experiences was one of them.
A small thing, but I don’t think they’ve ever sponsored an event like this in the UK before. Not the NTAs anyway.
This was in September as well, before any of this news became apparent. Subliminal messaging was already taking place or maybe I’m looking at it wrong haha
Just checked. They weren’t a sponsor in 2022.
Random I know but the backdrop where the celebs have their photos taken had the sponsors listed.
Universal Destinations & Experiences was one of them.
A small thing, but I don’t think they’ve ever sponsored an event like this in the UK before. Not the NTAs anyway.
This was in September as well, before any of this news became apparent. Subliminal messaging was already taking place or maybe I’m looking at it wrong haha
Just checked. They weren’t a sponsor in 2022.
I don’t think it’ll be blocked because of net zero but it’ll almost certainly involve a lot more paperwork.
Every big infrastructure project now needs to prove they’re going to hit certain markers.
It’s an extra cost.
One of the reasons why HS2 has ballooned in cost is due to the fact it was touted as the greenest railway in the world.
Miles and miles are being tunnelled so certain areas aren’t disrupted, the tunnelling has cost billions and billions more. If this wasn’t being done the northern leg would have happened.
Making something ‘green’ does cost more. They can afford it but it’s a ball ache and expensive.
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I never said they’d go against it.
I’m just saying it’s one reason why investing in the UK is so difficult.
I know people who deal with some big infrastructure projects. The paperwork they have to submit when it comes to net zero and being green or whatever you want to call it is ridiculous.
I’m not saying it’ll put universal off but it’s expensive and quite frankly off putting.
The fact is there’s a net zero target that’s government led. A project of this size is going to scrutinised in that respect and they’ll have to prove they’ll hit targets etc.
That costs not only more money but time.
It’s just a fact of life in the UK.
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We’re not bad on paperwork by Western European standards.
Paperwork exists everywhere. They have legions of people to sort that.
Paperwork exists everywhere. They have legions of people to sort that.
There are.
But when people ask why infrastructure projects ballon in cost in the UK paperwork and net zero paperwork is one of the main issues.
Universal can afford it but to a lot of business’s it’s off putting.
Anyway I’m not debating green credentials haha but Universal Destinations & Experiences advertising at an awards show for the masses last year is interesting no?
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Net Zero isn't some concept that Universal would've been blind to when deciding upon building here. They'll be completely aware of what paperwork would need filing and the costs involved with it. You forget that Comcast as a company own Sky and have connections to the UK, they'll be well abreast of the nuances and intricacies of our government and government led projects.
Frankly of all the reasons a project like this could be delayed or see costs balloon, Net Zero isn't one I think would be high on the list. Universal would come fully understanding what will be required and the paperwork involved and there's no need to be worrying about it.
The idea that 'paperwork' could derail this project seems absurd, these aren't a two-bit company trying to build a Theme Park for the first time in a market they have no connection to. Universal are bonafide and Comcast behind them has a huge presence in the UK now.
Frankly of all the reasons a project like this could be delayed or see costs balloon, Net Zero isn't one I think would be high on the list. Universal would come fully understanding what will be required and the paperwork involved and there's no need to be worrying about it.
The idea that 'paperwork' could derail this project seems absurd, these aren't a two-bit company trying to build a Theme Park for the first time in a market they have no connection to. Universal are bonafide and Comcast behind them has a huge presence in the UK now.
It derails many projects, but I don’t think it’ll derail this. They can afford to get past it.
I’m talking more about the UK as a whole, our planning system and the stipulations that are put in place.
For some the costs are to expensive. Like I said HS2 has been derailed by ‘green’ costs whether it was the green costs up front or NIMBYs wanting it more ‘green’ and hidden.
Billions upon billions have been spent on tunnels in areas where the rich live, money that could and should have been spent on the northern leg that was cancelled.
I’m not being combative, I have friends who work in this field and I work on the outskirts, the paperwork is immense, universal will get past it but like I said many businesses don’t which make the UK in general an unattractive place to invest for a lot of companies.
I’m talking more about the UK as a whole, our planning system and the stipulations that are put in place.
For some the costs are to expensive. Like I said HS2 has been derailed by ‘green’ costs whether it was the green costs up front or NIMBYs wanting it more ‘green’ and hidden.
Billions upon billions have been spent on tunnels in areas where the rich live, money that could and should have been spent on the northern leg that was cancelled.
I’m not being combative, I have friends who work in this field and I work on the outskirts, the paperwork is immense, universal will get past it but like I said many businesses don’t which make the UK in general an unattractive place to invest for a lot of companies.
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HS2 hasn’t failed… it’s just been cut into thirds.
I never said it’s failed… you’re looking for things I never said.
Look at the cost. How much does it cost to do X because we’re focused on Y.
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I never said it was a primary reason.
I said ‘One of the reasons why HS2 has ballooned in cost is due to the fact it was touted as the greenest railway in the world.’
In order to appear as one of the greenest railways in the world with the help of NIMBYs miles and miles have been tunnelled, particularly under rich conservative areas funnily enough.
These tunnels have been used as a basis for the projects green credentials, they’re not disturbing areas of natural beauty etc.
Funnily enough they’re mentioned here -
Green Tunnels - HS2
www.hs2.org.uk
The cost of tunnelling compared to digging a ditch so the track is below ground level has cost the project billions upon billions more.
I never said net zero is the cause, it’s a factor and I said it’s more paper work (which it is) and it costs more money (which it does).
I also never said HS2 had ‘failed’.
HS2 is touted as the greenest railway, that cost money, that is being done to meet net zero targets. That’s the simple truth. Green initiatives aren’t cheap.
Also like Alicia said if they can’t hit targets they offset and that costs £££
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