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The only time I was really upset with kids at HHN is when one jumped on a ketchup packet to cause a mess by Mel's, and it splattered on my shoes.
Damn kids.
Damn kids.
Stranger Things was a mistakeThe only time I was really upset with kids at HHN is when one jumped on a ketchup packet to cause a mess by Mel's, and it splattered on my shoes.
Damn kids.
Isn't that like an actual ongoing thing at HHN. There's just a bunch of kids at Mel's that kind of just exist and they're always there every night. I've had friends say it too; my friends were walking by and the entire place was just middle schoolers by Mel's.The only time I was really upset with kids at HHN is when one jumped on a ketchup packet to cause a mess by Mel's, and it splattered on my shoes.
Damn kids.
Do you guys think we could please get back to HHN speculation or even just nothing? Not trying to bring a negative response or saying that these conversations are important, but it seems like the same points are kind of being repeated over and over again.
Wait, what? WTF did I miss? What did Vanity Ball have to do with gay? Honestly, I didn't see that at all so clearly I missed something when experiencing it. Were the surgeries supposed to be specifically trans surgeries or something? I thought it was just plastic surgery gone wrong. I really liked that zone the first night I went (early in the event), but it really got bad towards the end where I felt the SAs were just kind of mailing it in (and a lot of times there were barely any SAs even in the zone it seemed). Not sure if anyone else had a similar experience. But any gay or trans angle was completely lost on me.Vanity Ball had a lot of opposition because "gay" when that shouldn't be criteria for rating a zone. That doesn't mean if you didn't like Vanity Ball, you were anti-LGBTQ+, but that also doesn't negate the fact that there are those people who exist and add to the toxicity.
Wait, what? WTF did I miss? What did Vanity Ball have to do with gay? Honestly, I didn't see that at all so clearly I missed something when experiencing it. Were the surgeries supposed to be specifically trans surgeries or something? I thought it was just plastic surgery gone wrong. I really liked that zone the first night I went (early in the event), but it really got bad towards the end where I felt the SAs were just kind of mailing it in (and a lot of times there were barely any SAs even in the zone it seemed). Not sure if anyone else had a similar experience. But any gay or trans angle was completely lost on me.
Side note: I would love to see VB as a house one day...the zone was a friggin blastEDIT- it was a horror-based celebration of an explicitly gay culture-centered experience.![]()
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People got pissed about this?EDIT- it was a horror-based celebration of an explicitly gay culture-centered experience.![]()
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It was gay. Of course some people got pissed about it.People got pissed about this?
Lame. But then this is the perfect example of why I don't have Twitter or FB or any of those other apps. I can just go to the event and enjoy it for what it is instead of having to read this type of crap.It was gay. Of course some people got pissed about it.
As someone who didn’t even know what Ball Culture was, I can say it did give me RuPaul’s Drag Race vibes.EDIT- it was a horror-based celebration of an explicitly gay culture-centered experience.![]()
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It was definitely heavily inspired by that kinda glamorous drag aesthetic and ball culture. It seemed really heavily inspired by the looks of The Boulet Brothers Dragula show, which is basically a mix of RuPaul’s Drag Race and the horror genre. If you miss Vanity Ball, check that show out, it’s a fun watch!As someone who didn’t even know what Ball Culture was, I can say it did give me RuPaul’s Drag Race vibes.
It was gay. Of course some people got pissed about it.
100% the experience for me and my friends.Might as well add wood to the fire. As a gay man and just share my personal experiences. I find HHN in a way TO ME a gay catered event in a way and I know lots of gays do too, they love LOVE the event. And having Vanity Ball was such a fun zone it was one of the zones I sat and enjoyed watching, I know tons of people in the spectrum work the event I see them everywhere every year at HHN but it was fun seeing them have so much fun in the zone and being even more overtly flamboyant. But point is that even though I know I see them everywhere at HHN I think people who would do LGBT+ people harm wouldn't know/see them otherwise however while doing my usual watching at Vanity there were some people walking through the zone who said some things that made me question if they would do LGBT+ people harm and I was generally concerned for the actors well being...thankfully I never witnessed anything happen but know I heard some worrisome things.
100% this. As a gay man, it’s so fun to see HHN have a scarezone that feels like one big celebration of the LGBT community, but even in my two days of attending that event, a lot of the guests walking through VB said things either about certain scareactors or the LGBT community as a whole that made me genuinely worry for their safety.But point is that even though I know I see them everywhere at HHN I think people who would do LGBT+ people harm wouldn't know/see them otherwise however while doing my usual watching at Vanity there were some people walking through the zone who said some things that made me question if they would do LGBT+ people harm and I was generally concerned for the actors well being...thankfully I never witnessed anything happen but know I heard some worrisome things.
While I have to admit the Ru Paul aesthetic and all that is not really my thing personally I am very pro LGBT+ and did not really know if I would like Vanity ball especially since I liked chucky so much in that space the year before, but that zone was a blast.Might as well add wood to the fire. As a gay man and just share my personal experiences. I find HHN in a way TO ME a gay catered event in a way and I know lots of gays do too, they love LOVE the event. And having Vanity Ball was such a fun zone it was one of the zones I sat and enjoyed watching, I know tons of people in the spectrum work the event I see them everywhere every year at HHN but it was fun seeing them have so much fun in the zone and being even more overtly flamboyant. But point is that even though I know I see them everywhere at HHN I think people who would do LGBT+ people harm wouldn't know/see them otherwise however while doing my usual watching at Vanity there were some people walking through the zone who said some things that made me question if they would do LGBT+ people harm and I was generally concerned for the actors well being...thankfully I never witnessed anything happen but know I heard some worrisome things.
I had to circle back to this because it's bugging me.Do you guys think we could please get back to HHN speculation or even just nothing? Not trying to bring a negative response or saying that these conversations are important, but it seems like the same points are kind of being repeated over and over again.
I had to circle back to this because it's bugging me.
We have a unique year in the sense that we pretty much know what we're getting down to certain rooms & characters in some cases even. There's only so much to discuss for 6 more months until the event starts. Why can we circle around the same topics ad nauseam and discuss ticket and RIP Tour options for days nonstop, but we can't have an intricate & important discussion and gender, sexuality, etc, and how it plays a role in the haunt scene for a single day? That's not even touching on how gross it is to ask if we can just "not discuss anything" rather than have this discussion. You can't bury discrimination.