If only.Yep. I wasn't fully awake yet when I wrote all that & was too lazy to elaborate more lol.. but yes.
I still like the concept of Eddie holding Jack's severed head! (which I'd welcome with a confetti canons if they finally used Eddie)
If only.Yep. I wasn't fully awake yet when I wrote all that & was too lazy to elaborate more lol.. but yes.
I still like the concept of Eddie holding Jack's severed head! (which I'd welcome with a confetti canons if they finally used Eddie)
My dream. I’d give a kidney (or more) for her to return. 18 is the one year I would go back to if I could. The elaborate backstory, her character, *chef’s kiss*Bloody Mary (if only )
No. No it did not. There was only ONE icon (The Terra Queen) & a marketing image (The Storyteller). The Storyteller had zero presence at the event except for the cameo in "Where Evil Hides" (maybe a random hotel appearance/outside the gates).Technically 2005 featured two icons.
The Storyteller had zero presence at the event except for the cameo in "Where Evil Hides" (maybe a random hotel appearance/outside the gates).
I get the concern, but that’s not how Universal has traditionally leveraged its Icons. The overarching story isn’t and has never been the “point;” That’s why retcons are so prevalent. The only interconnectedness for any icons beyond “they all work for Fear” is tied to one icon - Jack. And even that canon was exceedingly simple prior to Oddfellow.its so funny how you take one persons comment and lump "all" into it. I, me, personally said "don't overuse them" it was an opinion, didn't mean to strike a nerve with some of y'all. We need an announcement soon because with all do respect you all are reading into this poop (lol no swears allowed i guess ) to much lol. Me saying it would be nice for a year gap in between icons vs what has been received as me saying "ditch icons" suddenly... are 2 totally different sayings.
I agreed with
when he discussed the pumpkin lord. In this case it can be seen as a "mascot" like mentioned above and didn't require a background story. It was just embodying Halloween for the theming. This was a great and awesome execution for what ultimately became an "Icon". It was nice to see a new original character that has no relation to the other icons.
FYI the term "overuse" is for the storytelling and how potential icons interweave with one another. I was referring to other icons (caretaker, chance, eddie, etc) all eventually having some interweaving story that you need to be following thru previous events, in order to understand scare zones or theming for the year. Feel like its was a logically discussion but clearly it has been taken the wrong way so ill just move on from it!
Which I expected so I looked into what Horror I could unearth. "The Storyteller could be seen walking around outside the park gates, telling her "story"."Hmmm? (I’m slightly curious)
This. For the general public, this is all they need to know to understand the Icons:I get the concern, but that’s not how Universal has traditionally leveraged its Icons. The overarching story isn’t and has never been the “point;” That’s why retcons are so prevalent. The only interconnectedness for any icons beyond “they all work for Fear” is tied to one icon - Jack. And even that canon was exceedingly simple prior to Oddfellow.
Jack = Clown
Eddie = Clown with chainsaw, brother
Chance = Lady clown, lady-friend
And in this world, all clowns have some sort of relation. Oddfellow, who was always canon to Jack’s story, was presented as an icon completely independent of Jack. You didn’t have to know anything about Jack to appreciate Oddfellow because the connection was only ever a fun Easter egg for fans.
Not to be that person but Oddfellow isn't a clown he's a Ringmaster.... lol
- Dr. Oddfellow - Murderous clown, but immortal.
I decided to let someone else take that one. So, thank you lolNot to be that person but Oddfellow isn't a clown he's a Ringmaster.... lol
I love this theory, and I think it would make a lot of sense.So taking it WAYYYYYY back to when we were discussing decades for the event - when talking about what would set the 90s apart, my first thought was making it basically Tony Hawks' Halloween Horror Nights. Just like how the 80s events we got were the modern nostalgia version of what people imagine the 80s to be, I think a 90s event would be best set up as a 90s, DIY punk, Xtreme set up. Pretty close to the corporate idea of what punk is on the early release shirts that we got.
With the two icons rumor, I actually think it would be really cool if we got something similar to the original 2001 set up for the event. Initially, Eddie was going to usurp Jack and take over the event. His house, RUN, was a self-built shoddy haunted house. I think they should drop the clown angle for him and return him to being basically just a edgy "heavy metal" anarchist.
However, instead of Jack, I'd have his foil be the Usher. The Ushers whole deal is enforcing rules. The Usher would be the main Icon, and "represent" the IP Houses. Eddie would be ruining things and represent the original houses. Order vs Chaos, Old vs New, Originals vs IPs.
Very well done, not too in your face and you didn't feel left out if you didn't know who he was.I was genuinely surprised at how well-integrated Oddfellow was throughout the event.
For casual fans, Oddfellow was just a cool walk-around character and the zones could exist on their own.
For the super fans, there was a very clear connection through every zone with Oddfellow.
Very cool to see, and satisfied everyone.
Hot Take: The Storyteller is a significantly better icon than the Queen despite her origins. As a familiar-but-twisted archetype she fits in much better with the other icons then the over-designed dark-fantasy Queen. Her vague backstory is an advantage (as it is with the other icons) because she can be used in a wider variety of situations and her “lore” can be adapted to fit the needs of new events, something the overly-specific concept of the Queen makes more difficult.No. No it did not. There was only ONE icon (The Terra Queen) & a marketing image (The Storyteller). The Storyteller had zero presence at the event except for the cameo in "Where Evil Hides" (maybe a random hotel appearance/outside the gates).
The only reason that book-carrying granny exists is because the marketing department at the time was incompetent & not local. They apparently didn't know how to advertise a "blood-thirsty inter-dimensional Queen hellbent on harvesting humans for her immortality". It was too difficult. So instead of an iconic image with a badass motorcycle (The Terra-Beast), we got grandma dropping anvils on a dude tied to a bed of nails.
The Storyteller has had no consistency at all anytime she has appeared at the event. In 2006, she was ripping out tongues. Also, in the 2006 short-film, she had the supernatural ability to manipulate a dude to put his hand in a garbage disposal. Then for the 30th anniversary icon house, she was suddenly now a shape-shifting demon. Because sure.
/End 2005 fanboy rant