I think the park will have dark rides. Probably omnimovers. The concept seems to show one in the Shrek land and possibly one in JW:CC.
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I'd bet that one of those is Shrek 4D. The ride film exists already, it's retired in the USA, people seem to like it, easy to maintain and eats people. Cheap and easy thing to toss in the park.
Pets shows that the omnimover system has a lot of potential. Just needs to loosen up on elements like the knee-guards; and to increase capacity, and it'd be perfect.
Admittedly though--thinking JW is the one that would get it.
At very most, the park might (BIG might) have one or two rides that could be of interest to me, and that's nowhere near enough to justify a trip from across the country. I've got to prioritize finally going to Universal Studios Hollywood and Disneyland first!
- Jul 13, 2018
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I would go. I personally find Legoland California very fun when I'm going with cousins, but at this point they have things we would actually consider rides, which wasn't the case when I first went in 2005.
- Jun 10, 2021
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We are square in the target demo with two toddlers and live less than an hour away, so needless to say we’re thrilled. However, I don’t think the park will warrant a cross country trip with USF and USH getting so many new things over the next couple years. Nor do I think Universal anticipates people doing that; it is and seems like it will always be a regional park first and foremost.
- Jul 24, 2018
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I'm the same way. I'd love to check it out eventually, but there are several other parks that must take priority lol
- Jun 21, 2016
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By the age they do school trips, they’ll have aged out. Six flags for 7th grade band? Sure. But elementary won’t do a trip. Maybe a private preschool goes once?
Pass holders will be for during the week and Oklahoma/Louisiana/Arkansas (maybe? Silver dollar city will be closer and better)/Houston/Austin will be the weekend folks.
And Summer/Holidays will be gangbusters all week.
I’d bet money it’s Shrek 4D. One theater.
I’d also bet there is not one dark ride at opening day and that they’ll make one an expansion in the future (and even then, Peter Pan would blow it out of the water in quality). Their budget is going to be all towards theming here, and I’m fine with that.
With the small budget, I’d prefer higher quality theming as opposed to a better attraction.
The boat ride you see will be the E-ticket of the park. Don’t let the buildings fool y’all. They’re tiny.
- Jun 27, 2017
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well high schoolers will want to go for prom or other events
especially when I was graduating most kids were somehow drunk or on something at Disneyland for grad night and loved being at a theme park with colorful rides
so don’t count them out
- Oct 29, 2020
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High quality theming is all I want out of this. I really hope they don't skimp out on that. I'll be happy to go a couple of times a month to enjoy the atmosphere and have a couple Jurassic World IPAs.
- Jun 27, 2017
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Same I hope they take advantage of not having to rely on rides
Maybe Universal will make its versions of Nintendo games for kids to play with a band or item, some nice gardens/walk through attractions. Hell I'd kinda prefer in some ways a Jurassic ride where the AA's just look cool and nothing goes wrong.
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Finally, we can see Hadrosaur Cove!
- Jun 27, 2017
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Honestly....my favorite part of the ride is the new Indorex because it moves like its alive....the drop is fun but I want a ride where raptors next to you, see a dinosaur swimming etc
- Jan 11, 2023
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Not sure if I can directly link this (sorry in advance if this is against the rules) but FB post from the Frisco Mayor with a FAQ on the park.
edit: looks like it wouldn't let me link but here is the text:
"
We are appreciative of all of the engagement we have received on the proposed Universal project as well as the many residents who want to really dig in to learn more about the project. Below is a compiling of our FAQs and responses.
Project Scope:
• 97 acres - For perspective, 97 acres is almost as big as Warren Sports Complex, which spans 105 acres.
o 30acres(ofthe97) - Dedicated to the park and 300-room hotel designed for families
o Remaining acreage – Dedicated to parking, potential expansion
o Quarter of size ‘traditional’ UniversalPark–Quarter of the size of ‘Hollywood’ or quarter of the size of one ‘Orlando’ park
o Location: East of DNT, North of Panther Creek. ‘Triangle’ shape property within ‘Fields’ development.
• Target audience: 3 – 9 years old. (Adults, older siblings are welcome – but the ‘target’ audience is ages 3 – 9 and rides will be designed for younger children.)
• New ‘Universal’ concept - ‘One-of-a-kind’ theme park, ‘immersive lands.’ No characters known at this time.
• Hours of Operation: Park will not open earlier than 8 a.m. or close later than 9 p.m. Deed also allows for 20 special events annually, with closing hours no later than 10 p.m.
o Anticipated Hours: 10a.m.–6p.m. weekdays; 10a.m.–7p.m., weekends
EXISTING ZONING: Currently zoned for mixed-use, more ‘density’ than a theme park.
• Fields ‘Preliminary’ Master Plan slated property for apartments, office, retail (Est. 1,500 apts., 1.9 million sq. ft of
office, 46K sq. ft. retail) which would have generated 5 times more traffic “coming-going” during peak commuter
hours.
• On a ‘typical day’, the mixed-use development would have generated 4 times more traffic than the theme park, now
proposed by Universal.
• The theme park’s anticipated opening hour of 10 a.m. will not compete with commuter rush hour traffic.
REZONING (Restrictions): Height, noise, screening and hours of operation will be considered as the proposed project moves through the Specific Use Permit (SUP) process. Newspaper notification will be published on Sunday, January 22 for a February 7 Public Hearing meeting with both City Council and Planning and Zoning.
ANTICIPATED ATTENDANCE:
• 7,500 visitors – weekdays
• 20,000 visitors – Saturdays
Worth noting: These numbers note people – not vehicles – and does not include employees. Average estimate of 3.2 people per car
TRAFFIC:
Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA)
• City of Frisco required Universal to conduct TIA for the zoning case.
• Universal hired Kimley Horn to conduct the TIA because Kimley Horn ‘knows Frisco’ and has done a ‘lot of work’ here.
• TIA remains in DRAFT form; City engineering services is reviewing (As of 1/19/23)
• Approximately 100 pages – will include microscopic simulation, i.e. video of ‘how it will work’ coming off DNT.
Timeline: TIA work started at least 1 month ago
TRAFFIC COMPARISON: Developed by City Traffic Engineers and notes the following:
• Both HEB, Costco properties could ‘fit’ on Universal site and generate “...a lot more traffic” during weekdays
• Collin College property is smaller than Universal but generates more traffic during weekdays
• Stonebriar Centre property is (bit) bigger but generates est. 7 times more traffic on weekdays, 4 times more on
Saturday
• Worth noting: No traffic analysis for the proposed Universal project used ‘Pandemic’ year information.
TRAFFIC ENTRY/EXIT:
• Visitors use: Fields Parkway, opposite neighborhood bordering Panther Creek Parkway
• Employees use: Frisco Street
Hotel patrons use: Panther Creek Parkway
• ‘Significant’ - City working to determine investment in roadway construction, improvements
• New roadway projects, already underway for other developments (PGA, Fields)
• Roadway Improvements currently underway (prior to Universal announcement):
o Fields bridge
o Panther Creek – DNT to Preston
o Legacy Drive
o Fields Parkway
• DNT – City doesn’t control DNT – but will be working to make sure traffic does not ‘backup’ on ramps
WHAT THIS IS NOT:
• Does not ‘target’ teens, adults
• No late-night hours
• No big buildings (Hotel will be 4 – 5 stories)
• No ‘dark’ rides
• No fireworks
• No ‘tall’ roller coasters (40 – 50 feet maximum ‘family coaster’)
WHAT THIS IS:
• For young children, 3 – 9
• Family friendly hours: 10 – 6 weekdays, 10 – 7 weekends
• Features Character ‘Meet and Greets’
• Hotel designed for families, 4-5 stories
• In-ward thinking environment: Focus on ‘inside’ – not ‘outside’
o Each ‘land’ will have very ‘lush’ landscaping (taken to ‘next level’)
o Double landscaping, berm will screen neighborhood from theme park
o Universal goal: Put the ‘Park’ back in park
o Places provided to ‘get out of heat’
• ‘Family Coasters’ – 40 – 50 feet, max
PUBLIC VOTE: (Why can’t public vote on project?)
• The public cannot vote on zoning cases.
• However – the public can comment during the ‘Citizen Input’ portion of public meetings, i.e. Planning & Zoning
and City Council and during the public hearings associated with the zoning case.
PUBLIC INPUT: Universal has shared it plans to host additional community meetings where residents can learn more and ask questions. Tentative dates under consideration are January 30 or January 31."
TAXES: (Will taxes go up?)
• Sales tax: City anticipates a positive increase (net) in sales tax revenue for Frisco
• Property tax: Staff recommends, City Council approves a property tax rate each year in September. Worth
noting: The tax rate has been consistent at $.4466 since FY18 – and Frisco has a reputation for having one of the most reasonable, competitive (low) tax rates in North Texas.
o A homeowner’s property tax bill may be impacted if the homeowner’s property value increased despite a ‘flat’ tax rate.
TAX ‘BREAKS’ / INCENTIVES:
• Development Agreement is being negotiated – but No Public-Private-Partnership at this time
• Any incentives would be ‘performance based’
CRIME: NO increase anticipated – per Chief, FPD
• Based on target audience (3 – 9), hours of operation
PUBLIC TRANSPORATION: Not planned. No ‘light rail’.
TIMELINE:
• Will be shared by Universal in the future
• Project in ‘beginning stages’ of city review process
o Like any development project, city review begins when plans are submitted.
edit: looks like it wouldn't let me link but here is the text:
"
We are appreciative of all of the engagement we have received on the proposed Universal project as well as the many residents who want to really dig in to learn more about the project. Below is a compiling of our FAQs and responses.
Project Scope:
• 97 acres - For perspective, 97 acres is almost as big as Warren Sports Complex, which spans 105 acres.
o 30acres(ofthe97) - Dedicated to the park and 300-room hotel designed for families
o Remaining acreage – Dedicated to parking, potential expansion
o Quarter of size ‘traditional’ UniversalPark–Quarter of the size of ‘Hollywood’ or quarter of the size of one ‘Orlando’ park
o Location: East of DNT, North of Panther Creek. ‘Triangle’ shape property within ‘Fields’ development.
• Target audience: 3 – 9 years old. (Adults, older siblings are welcome – but the ‘target’ audience is ages 3 – 9 and rides will be designed for younger children.)
• New ‘Universal’ concept - ‘One-of-a-kind’ theme park, ‘immersive lands.’ No characters known at this time.
• Hours of Operation: Park will not open earlier than 8 a.m. or close later than 9 p.m. Deed also allows for 20 special events annually, with closing hours no later than 10 p.m.
o Anticipated Hours: 10a.m.–6p.m. weekdays; 10a.m.–7p.m., weekends
EXISTING ZONING: Currently zoned for mixed-use, more ‘density’ than a theme park.
• Fields ‘Preliminary’ Master Plan slated property for apartments, office, retail (Est. 1,500 apts., 1.9 million sq. ft of
office, 46K sq. ft. retail) which would have generated 5 times more traffic “coming-going” during peak commuter
hours.
• On a ‘typical day’, the mixed-use development would have generated 4 times more traffic than the theme park, now
proposed by Universal.
• The theme park’s anticipated opening hour of 10 a.m. will not compete with commuter rush hour traffic.
REZONING (Restrictions): Height, noise, screening and hours of operation will be considered as the proposed project moves through the Specific Use Permit (SUP) process. Newspaper notification will be published on Sunday, January 22 for a February 7 Public Hearing meeting with both City Council and Planning and Zoning.
ANTICIPATED ATTENDANCE:
• 7,500 visitors – weekdays
• 20,000 visitors – Saturdays
Worth noting: These numbers note people – not vehicles – and does not include employees. Average estimate of 3.2 people per car
TRAFFIC:
Traffic Impact Analysis (TIA)
• City of Frisco required Universal to conduct TIA for the zoning case.
• Universal hired Kimley Horn to conduct the TIA because Kimley Horn ‘knows Frisco’ and has done a ‘lot of work’ here.
• TIA remains in DRAFT form; City engineering services is reviewing (As of 1/19/23)
• Approximately 100 pages – will include microscopic simulation, i.e. video of ‘how it will work’ coming off DNT.
Timeline: TIA work started at least 1 month ago
TRAFFIC COMPARISON: Developed by City Traffic Engineers and notes the following:
• Both HEB, Costco properties could ‘fit’ on Universal site and generate “...a lot more traffic” during weekdays
• Collin College property is smaller than Universal but generates more traffic during weekdays
• Stonebriar Centre property is (bit) bigger but generates est. 7 times more traffic on weekdays, 4 times more on
Saturday
• Worth noting: No traffic analysis for the proposed Universal project used ‘Pandemic’ year information.
TRAFFIC ENTRY/EXIT:
• Visitors use: Fields Parkway, opposite neighborhood bordering Panther Creek Parkway
• Employees use: Frisco Street
Hotel patrons use: Panther Creek Parkway
• ‘Significant’ - City working to determine investment in roadway construction, improvements
• New roadway projects, already underway for other developments (PGA, Fields)
• Roadway Improvements currently underway (prior to Universal announcement):
o Fields bridge
o Panther Creek – DNT to Preston
o Legacy Drive
o Fields Parkway
• DNT – City doesn’t control DNT – but will be working to make sure traffic does not ‘backup’ on ramps
WHAT THIS IS NOT:
• Does not ‘target’ teens, adults
• No late-night hours
• No big buildings (Hotel will be 4 – 5 stories)
• No ‘dark’ rides
• No fireworks
• No ‘tall’ roller coasters (40 – 50 feet maximum ‘family coaster’)
WHAT THIS IS:
• For young children, 3 – 9
• Family friendly hours: 10 – 6 weekdays, 10 – 7 weekends
• Features Character ‘Meet and Greets’
• Hotel designed for families, 4-5 stories
• In-ward thinking environment: Focus on ‘inside’ – not ‘outside’
o Each ‘land’ will have very ‘lush’ landscaping (taken to ‘next level’)
o Double landscaping, berm will screen neighborhood from theme park
o Universal goal: Put the ‘Park’ back in park
o Places provided to ‘get out of heat’
• ‘Family Coasters’ – 40 – 50 feet, max
PUBLIC VOTE: (Why can’t public vote on project?)
• The public cannot vote on zoning cases.
• However – the public can comment during the ‘Citizen Input’ portion of public meetings, i.e. Planning & Zoning
and City Council and during the public hearings associated with the zoning case.
PUBLIC INPUT: Universal has shared it plans to host additional community meetings where residents can learn more and ask questions. Tentative dates under consideration are January 30 or January 31."
TAXES: (Will taxes go up?)
• Sales tax: City anticipates a positive increase (net) in sales tax revenue for Frisco
• Property tax: Staff recommends, City Council approves a property tax rate each year in September. Worth
noting: The tax rate has been consistent at $.4466 since FY18 – and Frisco has a reputation for having one of the most reasonable, competitive (low) tax rates in North Texas.
o A homeowner’s property tax bill may be impacted if the homeowner’s property value increased despite a ‘flat’ tax rate.
TAX ‘BREAKS’ / INCENTIVES:
• Development Agreement is being negotiated – but No Public-Private-Partnership at this time
• Any incentives would be ‘performance based’
CRIME: NO increase anticipated – per Chief, FPD
• Based on target audience (3 – 9), hours of operation
PUBLIC TRANSPORATION: Not planned. No ‘light rail’.
TIMELINE:
• Will be shared by Universal in the future
• Project in ‘beginning stages’ of city review process
o Like any development project, city review begins when plans are submitted.
- Jun 27, 2017
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- Feb 15, 2012
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@corgimom11 thank you very much! (also plz post pictures of said corgis)
This part stuck out to me
ANTICIPATED ATTENDANCE:
• 7,500 visitors – weekdays
• 20,000 visitors – Saturdays
Assuming 52 Saturdays a year this means they're aiming for 3.4 million guests a year.
Why would this have a nighttime show? It's a kids park, the fireworks launch sight would be bigger than the park!
This part stuck out to me
ANTICIPATED ATTENDANCE:
• 7,500 visitors – weekdays
• 20,000 visitors – Saturdays
Assuming 52 Saturdays a year this means they're aiming for 3.4 million guests a year.
Why would this have a nighttime show? It's a kids park, the fireworks launch sight would be bigger than the park!
- Jun 27, 2017
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The lake in the middle of the park looks perfect for a night time show
guess I’ll very much lower my expectations because even trolls land would be better at night but 7 pm it will barley be dark for an hour
guess I’ll very much lower my expectations because even trolls land would be better at night but 7 pm it will barley be dark for an hour
- Feb 15, 2012
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I'd say night ambiance but not a "nighttime show".
But anyway. Something else I found in the text list...
Each ‘land’ will have very ‘lush’ landscaping (taken to ‘next level’)
o Double landscaping, berm will screen neighborhood from theme park
o Universal goal: Put the ‘Park’ back in park
o Places provided to ‘get out of heat’
For people who say Universal has a ton of thrill rides and not enough areas to relax, this sounds good.
• ‘Family Coasters’ – 40 – 50 feet, max
This places it around Flight of the Hippogriff in size. That makes sense because Hippo is an off the shelf coaster layout.
• No ‘dark’ rides
I read this as him misinterpreting the question. Since this was placed under teends/adults i think he thought they meant tone vs attraction method.
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