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Universal's Epic Universe Wish List & Speculation

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NotPennysBoat said:
Why not?
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Cause nothing about Monsters Cafe suggests authentic European village.
 
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Seems like to me according to reports, the theme of the land is set in modern days where the village is setting up a tourist trap. What's a better tourist trap than a place to eat named Monsters Cafe themed to the various classic monsters. That should really make the tourists go gaga!!
 
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NotPennysBoat said:
Seems like to me according to reports, the theme of the land is set in modern days where the village is setting up a tourist trap. What's a better tourist trap than a place to eat named Monsters Cafe themed to the various classic monsters. That should really make the tourists go gaga!!
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Instead of movie memorabilia from the films we know exist in our world, this could be a cafe in the village with like "original pitchfork used in mob against monster" or something on the wall.

"Van Helsing's Crossbow" on display on the wall, etc etc

Sort of the same thing, but not really at all.
 
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Sure, that would work. If I was on the village council I would want whatever would rake in the most dollars. After all, we all know tourists are just itching to spend money!
 
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I was hoping for more of a Slaughtered Lamb Pub (from American Werewolf in London) setting

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NotPennysBoat said:
Seems like to me according to reports, the theme of the land is set in modern days where the village is setting up a tourist trap. What's a better tourist trap than a place to eat named Monsters Cafe themed to the various classic monsters. That should really make the tourists go gaga!!
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Sounds like you are trying to created a monsters version of chester and hester. . . and I don't like that. All tourist traps are not gaudy and flamboyant.
 
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jarmor said:
Sounds like you are trying to created a monsters version of chester and hester. . . and I don't like that. All tourist traps are not gaudy and flamboyant.
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One cafe does not make an entire chester and hester area. And you are entitled to your opinion. My opinion is that a Classic Universal Monsters Cafe fits perfectly in a Classic Universal Monsters Land, especially one based on a modern day European village tourist trap. If the theme is to be set in an old European village where the villagers have to deal with the creepy happenings at the castle, then a Monsters Cafe would not fit.
 
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jarmor said:
Sounds like you are trying to created a monsters version of chester and hester. . . and I don't like that. All tourist traps are not gaudy and flamboyant.
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I don’t think they are referencing a 1:1 recreation of Monsters Cafe. I would assume the restaurant will look like all other village facades, but with in world “memorabilia.” Seems pretty logical based on the rumor.
 
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Skold said:
Who even cares? Give me a Haunted Mansion on a KUKA arm and I don't even give a poop about the theme or the rest of the land.

Well, maybe also put a bar in there somewhere... :grin:
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Maybe I’m the only one who doesn’t get overly invested into these types of backstories or tie ins.

But as long the land looks aesthetically pleasing and seems to have a general theme than it’s good enough for me.
 
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Nico said:
I don’t think they are referencing a 1:1 recreation of Monsters Cafe. I would assume the restaurant will look like all other village facades, but with in world “memorabilia.” Seems pretty logical based on the rumor.
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I mean yeah, the Monsters land will very likely have dining with in-world theming. Whether you think that's "Monsters Cafe" depends on if you think the supposed Creature boat ride is an homage to Jaws, or if the dueling hub coaster is an homage to Dueling Dragons.
 
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minekb said:
I mean yeah, the Monsters land will very likely have dining with in-world theming. Whether you think that's "Monsters Cafe" depends on if you think the supposed Creature boat ride is an homage to Jaws, or if the dueling hub coaster is an homage to Dueling Dragons.
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Get your point, but theres possibility for nuance. Do I think they COULD have a restaurant called “Monster’s Cafe” in the new land? Sure. Will they, no idea. Are they going to name the Creature ride, “Creature: Jaws 2 Escape from Electric Boogaloo.” No.

We are seeing Universal embrace fan culture/nostalgia. See the new merchandising locations, the AP ad, etc. We typically see some clever nod to past attractions, but that is based on replacements. FF, Mummy, Simpsons, Diagon all have a little referential inside joke.

All this to say, I stand by my original post. I don’t believe Monsters land will be themed to a parking lot/roadside attraction or that this idea will be over engineered. I keep drawing the comparison to “Muggles getting a tour of Hogwarts.” We know they’ll lean into monster’s lore, and if a restaurant/facade has the name Monster’s Cafe on it, I don’t think it’ll destroy the integrity of the land.

Also, I can’t stress this enough - do I think this is worthy of debate? No.:lol: But what else do we have to talk about?
 
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Nico said:
Get your point, but theres possibility for nuance. Do I think they COULD have a restaurant called “Monster’s Cafe” in the new land? Sure. Will they, no idea. Are they going to name the Creature ride, “Creature: Jaws 2 Escape from Electric Boogaloo.” No.

We are seeing Universal embrace fan culture/nostalgia. See the new merchandising locations, the AP ad, etc. We typically see some clever nod to past attractions, but that is based on replacements. FF, Mummy, Simpsons, Diagon all have a little referential inside joke.

All this to say, I stand by my original post. I don’t believe Monsters land will be themed to a parking lot/roadside attraction or that this idea will be over engineered. I keep drawing the comparison to “Muggles getting a tour of Hogwarts.” We know they’ll lean into monster’s lore, and if a restaurant/facade has the name Monster’s Cafe on it, I don’t think it’ll destroy the integrity of the land.
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I think in 5 years the "story" for the land will matter as much as the name of the "island" jurassic parks land is set in that nobody can remember because the theming, rides, and food will be completely stellar.
 
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jseal777 said:
I think in 5 years the "story" for the land will matter as much as the name of the "island" jurassic parks land is set in that nobody can remember because the theming, rides, and food will be completely stellar.
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100% Agree.
 
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I'm really not expecting too much more from the land than it looking like a village, but a much more ominous one

The interiors may be shockingly similar to a particular Cauldron location

I do with the entire land was enclosed though, was hoping for that

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You can see just by desaturating the colors of the building a bit, it already looks "spookier"

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The sky is the same of course, but you get the idea
 
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Found a perfect visual aid at the mummy gift shop for what I was talking about earlier as what I foresee on the wall instead of movie memorabilia.

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Nico said:
I don’t think they are referencing a 1:1 recreation of Monsters Cafe.
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NotPennysBoat said:
named Monsters Cafe themed to the various classic monsters.
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Sounds like a recreation to me. . .

Nico said:
I would assume the restaurant will look like all other village facades, but with in world “memorabilia.” Seems pretty logical based on the rumor.
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Now this would make more sense, have artifacts, "memorabilia" around but not overly saturation the pub like eatery.

NotPennysBoat said:
If the theme is to be set in an old European village where the villagers have to deal with the creepy happenings at the castle, then a Monsters Cafe would not fit.
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And that is the general consensus. Old european village set in todays time frame but sort of stuck in time, which is making it more of a tourist trap because of that and the "rumors" of what the doctor has done those many years ago and strange things that are starting to happen again.

Now I am wondering how they will pull off a meet-and-greet . Are the monsters to be in hiding or are they walking around like normal people and the town has accepted it?
 
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Meet the' Song and Dance" Frankenstein Monster....... :lol: ....Have a "Bloody Orange Drink" made by the Count, before your very eyes...and watch the Wolfman get a haircut.... :grin:Cuddle up and hug the 'Invisible Man' , if you can find him.
....and have a Cup of Coffee with the Mummy....
 
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Alicia said:
Found a perfect visual aid at the mummy gift shop for what I was talking about earlier as what I foresee on the wall instead of movie memorabilia.

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In the Tom Cruise "Mummy" movie, the glass cases containing skulls of other monsters was pretty interesting. A skull of a vampire or werewolf could also be displayed, along with the weapon used to dispatch them, could be an interesting way to set the tone.
 
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jarmor said:
Now I am wondering how they will pull off a meet-and-greet . Are the monsters to be in hiding or are they walking around like normal people and the town has accepted it?
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I’m thinking something between a scare zone and roaming characters after dark. (Roaming in as the same way Doc Brown can be met at USF for example)
 
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I wonder if Bride of Frankenstein is included in the "Classic Monsters" roster. Not knowing the genders of the Mummy or Creature from the Black Lagoon, she would be the only female monster. I know she was featured in the last HHN house, so possibly?
 
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