Halloween Horror Nights 30 (UOR) - Speculation & Rumors (2021)

[OhHaiInternet95]

Again, it's at the bottom of IPs for the year. I wouldn't expect that to be a concern.

Strange to think that Shrek would've had the longest lines if things had gone as planned.

 

[RevFreako]

Strange to think that Shrek would've had the longest lines if things had gone as planned.

At the risk of being distasteful, aside from people I've lost, that house might be the thing COVID took from me that I'm most disappointed about.

 

[CoryLevy91]

Personally, I think it'd be disappointing if they shoehorned Michael Myers into a Season of the Witch house more than as a cameo or final scare. The team does such a tremendous job at paying homage to the IP properties when they use them that I think it'd be weird for them to produce a house based on a cult classic like Season of the Witch and it to be a mish mash that isn't actually the property solely to include the iconic killer that's been a featured IP several times already.

At that point, either do a different Halloween film you can access or have Myers in his own unique tale, don't potentially muddle Season of the Witch just for Myers' sake. I agree most with the idea that this likely isn't even going to be that featured of a house so it's not as if they're banking on Myers to sell tickets. Given the circumstances it's quite the opposite so if they want to throw a bone to something as niche and cult as H3, this would be a great year to do it.

It seems like a weird component to bring up that people would see the Halloween 3 title, not know anything about the title, expect Michael Myers and be that upset that he's not there that it'd be any kind of problem past the most basic "shrug, where was Michael Myers at?". Not to mention if they do as good a job as they usually do with an IP, story and scares will work well enough that level of event goers will still have fun to the point where it won't matter anyway. Make the house good, have your Myers cameo or final scare and it won't matter that MM isn't the star of a Halloween house. They'll pick up on the idea that the story doesn't involve him and maybe even look the movie up after the fact. If you want to be ultra safe, just call it Season of the Witch or Halloween: Season of the Witch.

This is all moot anyway, with the amount of time the house needs to devote to Tom Atkins, there won't be any left for Michael Myers.

 

[Clive]

Personally, I think it'd be disappointing if they shoehorned Michael Myers into a Season of the Witch house more than as a cameo or final scare. The team does such a tremendous job at paying homage to the IP properties when they use them that I think it'd be weird for them to produce a house based on a cult classic like Season of the Witch and it to be a mish mash that isn't actually the property solely to include the iconic killer that's been a featured IP several times already.

At that point, either do a different Halloween film you can access or have Myers in his own unique tale, don't potentially muddle Season of the Witch just for Myers' sake. I agree most with the idea that this likely isn't even going to be that featured of a house so it's not as if they're banking on Myers to sell tickets. Given the circumstances it's quite the opposite so if they want to throw a bone to something as niche and cult as H3, this would be a great year to do it.

It seems like a weird component to bring up that people would see the Halloween 3 title, not know anything about the title, expect Michael Myers and be that upset that he's not there that it'd be any kind of problem past the most basic "shrug, where was Michael Myers at?". Not to mention if they do as good a job as they usually do with an IP, story and scares will work well enough that level of event goers will still have fun to the point where it won't matter anyway. Make the house good, have your Myers cameo or final scare and it won't matter that MM isn't the star of a Halloween house. They'll pick up on the idea that the story doesn't involve him and maybe even look the movie up after the fact. If you want to be ultra safe, just call it Season of the Witch or Halloween: Season of the Witch.

This is all moot anyway, with the amount of time the house needs to devote to Tom Atkins, there won't be any left for Michael Myers.

I totally understand where everyone is coming from on this... but I would really start expecting Michael Myers to figure prominently into the maze and possibly the marketing.

What other characters could conceivably populate the house to begin with? You've got the three masks, perhaps an automaton, a gooey mask victim, some interpretation on the "witch" from the key art, and then... what?

 

[RevFreako]

I totally understand where everyone is coming from on this... but I would really start expecting Michael Myers to figure prominently into the maze and possibly the marketing.

What other characters could conceivably populate the house to begin with? You've got the three masks, perhaps an automaton, a gooey mask victim, some interpretation on the "witch" from the key art, and then... what?

If it's book report style, there are probably nine-ten scenes you can get out of it, especially if you make a meal of either the exterior or interior of the factory, although wanting that facade is precisely why I'd prefer they hold it off till next year.

 

[CoryLevy91]

I totally understand where everyone is coming from on this... but I would really start expecting Michael Myers to figure prominently into the maze and possibly the marketing.

What other characters could conceivably populate the house to begin with? You've got the three masks, perhaps an automaton, a gooey mask victim, some interpretation on the "witch" from the key art, and then... what?

There's enough to work with in regards to the building a house around the story of the movie. It'd be a shorter house but you don't need much to tell a simplified story of bad guys making evil halloween masks that will doom the world.

I could see MM being in the house but I would just be surprised if they decided to shoehorn him in and then toss him into the marketing. In a year where you have (potentially) Beetlejuice, The Haunting of Hill House, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Frankenstein/Bride as IPs to go along with a lot of HHN Icons and Lore plus your few outright originals not to mention it's been two years since the event has occurred in full so the fans are absolutely itching for it to happen it would be really surprising to me that they're apparently scrambling to include Michael Myers in the event. Maybe this was always the plan BEFORE Billie approached the stage but eh, it does surprise me to think they think they need MM so we're gonna push him in Shrek and put him on the merch.

 

[Legacy]

If they have any “Halloween” available, they will absolutely leverage it in marketing.

They lost Eilish, remember. Creepshow is nowhere close to the like-for-like popularity replacement Universal wants, and Hill House is old news. They need something “current” and popular that can work alongside Beetlejuice, which is the niche Michael Meyers fills. The character is more relevant than Leatherface and would likely move more merch than almost anything on the table.

 

[Catopher]

Why can’t we all just be happy that HHN 30 is actually happening this year and stop complaining about everything?

 

[shiekra38]

Adding Mike to an H3 house would be kind of interesting to see

It could easily be done Gringotts style where the events of the film are happening, but our story is intertwining with it



H3 was always the Silent Hill: The Room of the Halloween series, and I hope it comes to HHN either as inspiration for an adaptation of the actual film

 

[GA-MBIT]

Why can’t we all just be happy that HHN 30 is actually happening this year and stop complaining about everything?

I don't see any complaining here. I see people passionately talking about the event and maybe some voicing minor concerns on hypothetical decisions that could be made, but overall the vibe seems pretty positive.

 

[Lucky Planet]

There's enough to work with in regards to the building a house around the story of the movie. It'd be a shorter house but you don't need much to tell a simplified story of bad guys making evil halloween masks that will doom the world.

I could see MM being in the house but I would just be surprised if they decided to shoehorn him in and then toss him into the marketing. In a year where you have (potentially) Beetlejuice, The Haunting of Hill House, Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Frankenstein/Bride as IPs to go along with a lot of HHN Icons and Lore plus your few outright originals not to mention it's been two years since the event has occurred in full so the fans are absolutely itching for it to happen it would be really surprising to me that they're apparently scrambling to include Michael Myers in the event. Maybe this was always the plan BEFORE Billie approached the stage but eh, it does surprise me to think they think they need MM so we're gonna push him in Shrek and put him on the merch.

but what characters do you put inside? what villains besides the three masks?
lets actually think about it, if you dont use mickey myers, who else?

 

[graspthesun]

In regard to the view that people go the event without researching, I have definitely gone through and watched IPs that I'm not familiar with. I went out of my way to watch Killer Klowns, American Werewolf in London, Stranger Things and later seasons of The Walking Dead to be able to appreciate the event better. I'm going to watch Hill House before the event this year. I feel like you're missing the context if you're not seeing the IP. Honestly, having seen AvP before HHN 24 made the original twist on it a lot cooler.

ETA: I am super excited for HHN this year and H3 is my only hesitation. I'll admit I was super excited for Creepshow though because I love the series. That being said, it can always appear next year when the third season drops on Shudder.

 

[shiekra38]

In regard to the view that people go the event without researching, I have definitely gone through and watched IPs that I'm not familiar with. I went out of my way to watch Killer Klowns, American Werewolf in London, Stranger Things and later seasons of The Walking Dead to be able to appreciate the event better. I'm going to watch Hill House before the event this year. I feel like you're missing the context if you're not seeing the IP. Honestly, having seen AvP before HHN 24 made the original twist on it a lot cooler.

ETA: I am super excited for HHN this year and H3 is my only hesitation. I'll admit I was super excited for Creepshow though because I love the series. That being said, it can always appear next year when the third season drops on Shudder.

Sometimes I've seen everything ahead of time and other times there's a few movies or shows I haven't watched all the way through

For example, I never saw the first season of AHS or Roanoke, so I went in blind and still enjoyed it

Speaking of H3...The soundtrack to that is pure 80s synth bliss..Love it when they use it around the parks

 

[Legacy]

In regard to the view that people go the event without researching, I have definitely gone through and watched IPs that I'm not familiar with. I went out of my way to watch Killer Klowns, American Werewolf in London, Stranger Things and later seasons of The Walking Dead to be able to appreciate the event better. I'm going to watch Hill House before the event this year. I feel like you're missing the context if you're not seeing the IP. Honestly, having seen AvP before HHN 24 made the original twist on it a lot cooler.

ETA: I am super excited for HHN this year and H3 is my only hesitation. I'll admit I was super excited for Creepshow though because I love the series. That being said, it can always appear next year when the third season drops on Shudder.

You also post about HHN on a discussion board. You’re more of an outlier than most attendees.

A large contingent of people who go to HHN walk in without knowing what ANY of the houses are except for the IPs that are marketed. And for many if those, they don’t care. For a lot of locals, HHN is just a tradition. The specifics of it really don’t matter. But they WILL notice when something doesn’t jive with their expectations.

 

[PlatinumFate]

It seems like the last few pages can be summarized pretty simply:
HHN and horror fans want H3 to not include Michael because that’s what makes H3 special. It’s the only Halloween film without him. But those who view HHN as tradition and don’t care about horror will see Halloween and feel slighted if there isn’t a Michael Myers. Either way, Universal won’t be getting out of this without disappointing some group of people. Best they can do is try to minimize the amount of people disappointed by changing the name of the house or giving Michael a small cameo or something.

 

[DannyPowers]

but what characters do you put inside? what villains besides the three masks?
lets actually think about it, if you dont use mickey myers, who else?

Remember, HHN doesn't always just use the "villains" for the jump scares. The masked kids are obvious, as are the clockwork androids. You could easily toss Tom Atkins (hell yah) in there a few times. One of those would probably be the end ("Stop it! Stop it! Stooop iiiiittt!).

Beyond that, you could throw in the head of Silver Shamrock, the goofy family that's picking up their order, and...to be fair...Michael could see a cameo (he is technically on the screen once in 3).

 

[CoryLevy91]

but what characters do you put inside? what villains besides the three masks?
lets actually think about it, if you dont use mickey myers, who else?

You have the men in suits, creepy ole Conral Cochran, the popular three masks and any mask they want to scheme up and use (likely in both a normal as well as a creepy, mushy insect and snake spewing version). You can sprinkle in some human characters to spout scary exposition and pop out of boo holes (We Riot if No Atkins!). To me the 'star' of the maze would be the gruesome deaths and effects, not the monsters/villains so the house would be based on set pieces rather than being attacked by a series of creatures or villains.

But those who view HHN as tradition and don’t care about horror will see Halloween and feel slighted if there isn’t a Michael Myers.

It just seems weird to me to argue that people that don't care about the horror genre and just attend the event to have a good time (the majority of goers) would then make a surge of disappointment if MM isn't in a maze for a movie they've never seen. Especially if it's just called Season of the Witch or even Halloween: Season of the Witch. Drop the number or the main line moniker and that crowd won't be any wiser, right? If you're gonna argue that wouldn't you also argue that things will not align with their expectations if Michael doesn't look like how he does in the new Blumhouse films? "Weird that he looks all pristine and clean and his white mask doesn't look all dirty like it does in the movie, must have had to skimp on the production this year."

If they actually weave Michael into the H3 story in a coherent way and even if they don't I'm sure the house will be a blast either way. If they want Michael to be a heavy presence, why choose H3 in the first place is my qualm unless it's literally the only option they have to include him at the event now and I firmly believe they don't really need a huge shot in marketing regardless.

 

[faceleg]

I mean this shirt just came out this year, so yeah no one cares about this movie. lol

 

[CoryLevy91]

I mean this shirt just came out this year, so yeah no one cares about this movie. lol

It's the nichest of niche cult classics and it would probably be one of the smallest IPs they've ever done if you overlook that it has the Halloween name slapped on it. I don't think that means they should use it as a slapdash way of getting Myers into the event in a big way though. They can do an amazing house without The Shape and if that happens, I don't think anyone will care how much he shows up.

 

[Neo]

How about Halloween III in Shrek, true to the movie and then have the "unknown original" scarezone be something generic like "Anytown USA" or "Main Street Trick Or Treat" but it be a "surprise" Haddenfield with Michael Myers. Backstory that Michael hasn't been around for 30 years since he's been locked up like in the new series and he's kinda an Urban Legend and a lot of people go trick or treating as him. Morbid, but you know people would do it. So there are people trick or treating as him, but turns out Michael's come home so there are some "real" ones (or they're just demented killers wearing the masks to commit their crimes). So you have a TON of Michael's wandering around, one might take off their mask and be a very friendly and happy woman, and then then a "real" Michael comes up behind her and grabs her. Use the "fake" ones as setups for real one scares. Have some carrying plastic pumpkin buckets. Have a "fake" one go up to a "real" one, stab them with an obviously fake trick knife, take off their mask and start laughing with an, "I got you good!" kind of joke, but then Michael starts hacking away at them. Have them all get together every so often and just stand in a single file line as wide as the walkway, like 30 Michael Myers, the iconic music starts up, and then they all just walk through the zone so everybody has to get out of their way or squeeze between them. Could be cool.

Have Halloween III Season of the Witch the house, with the writeup and blog (won't help walkups) saying the "cult classic" movie without Michael Myers is being faithfully recreated bla bla bla to make it not be a bait and switch. But then a full zone of Michael's so nobody can complain they didn't get their fill of him and using him in marketing is fully justified.