Universal's Epic Universe Wish List & Speculation

[Grabnar]

I feel like the actual fun installations are going to go super quick and this is going to stay as dirt for quite a while

If we go by normal Universal timelines, the actual fun 'theming schtuff' part is actually a small portion of the overal timeline thanks to prefabrication

Yep, if it’s anything like the chemical industry it goes from “cement plot” to “finished product” in about 1/10 the time it takes to go from “field” to “cement plot”.

 

[Happytycho]

I feel like the actual fun installations are going to go super quick and this is going to stay as dirt for quite a while

If we go by normal Universal timelines, the actual fun 'theming schtuff' part is actually a small portion of the overal timeline thanks to prefabrication

If you're only interested in theming, then you're going to be bored for a long time still.

If you can get excited about some of the less interesting pieces of a theme park resort destination, then there should be plenty of fun happening by next fall if 2025 is the plan.

 

[richjagr]

I just can't wait till we find the Gatorade* bottle in a window somewhere up high. *Too long ago and I am getting old so forgive me if it was a different drink in Hogwarts.

 

[shiekra38]

You know what would help out?

A preview center.

One of the soundstages could be used for sure. I don't see it happening for a long while though

 

[Disneyhead]

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"O", fascinating.

I have been under the impression that a Cirque du Soleil show would be included in the new resort long before we got any concept art. When I saw the art, the large round domed stained glass building seemed to be the logical place for it. Which would make sense with the rumored "open hub". After seeing the permit, I am even more confident that it is a Cirque show. Specifically a show kind of similar to "O" in Las Vegas. "O" has a Chlorine Room, an Acid Room, and Hydraulic Lifts mounted in "lift pits", and it's associated oil separator. Although, they use mostly bromide and a small amount of chlorine to keep the chlorine smell down in the theater.

 

[Alicia]

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I have been under the impression that a Cirque du Soleil show would be included in the new resort long before we got any concept art. When I saw the art, the large round domed stained glass building seemed to be the logical place for it. Which would make sense with the rumored "open hub". After seeing the permit, I am even more confident that it is a Cirque show. Specifically a show kind of similar to "O" in Las Vegas. "O" has a Chlorine Room, an Acid Room, and Hydraulic Lifts mounted in "lift pits", and it's associated oil separator. Although, they use mostly bromide and a small amount of chlorine to keep the chlorine smell down in the theater.

Interesting. Very interesting.

 

[shiekra38]

To swing back around to this...

I have been under the impression that a Cirque du Soleil show would be included in the new resort long before we got any concept art. When I saw the art, the large round domed stained glass building seemed to be the logical place for it. Which would make sense with the rumored "open hub". After seeing the permit, I am even more confident that it is a Cirque show. Specifically a show kind of similar to "O" in Las Vegas. "O" has a Chlorine Room, an Acid Room, and Hydraulic Lifts mounted in "lift pits", and it's associated oil separator. Although, they use mostly bromide and a small amount of chlorine to keep the chlorine smell down in the theater.

I saw O in Vegas...I'll be honest, it started out very interesting, but it kind of got a bit boring by the end

Ka on the other hand was far more my style with the storyline throughout

Here's hoping they can weave a story in the show if they choose the Cirque route

 

[AlexanderMBush]

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I have been under the impression that a Cirque du Soleil show would be included in the new resort long before we got any concept art. When I saw the art, the large round domed stained glass building seemed to be the logical place for it. Which would make sense with the rumored "open hub". After seeing the permit, I am even more confident that it is a Cirque show. Specifically a show kind of similar to "O" in Las Vegas. "O" has a Chlorine Room, an Acid Room, and Hydraulic Lifts mounted in "lift pits", and it's associated oil separator. Although, they use mostly bromide and a small amount of chlorine to keep the chlorine smell down in the theater.

*Remembers the previous Cirque hotel idea, gets Vietnam flashbacks of the speculation from that*

 

[Scott W.]

I feel like the actual fun installations are going to go super quick and this is going to stay as dirt for quite a while

If we go by normal Universal timelines, the actual fun 'theming schtuff' part is actually a small portion of the overal timeline thanks to prefabrication

I think this is the order things will be done

Land Clearing
Utilities
Grading / Back of house - We are here
Foundations
Showbuildings
Coasters
Car Park
Hotel
Pathways
Ride Installation
Theming
Landscaping
Final Touches

There's obviously going to be a lot of overlap.

I find the whole project management fascinating for a project this size.

 

[Disneyhead]

I think this is the order things will be done

Land Clearing
Utilities
Grading / Back of house - We are here
Foundations
Showbuildings
Coasters
Car Park
Hotel
Pathways
Ride Installation
Theming
Landscaping
Final Touches

There's obviously going to be a lot of overlap.

I find the whole project management fascinating for a project this size.

I think "car park" will be higher on the list so the workers have a more available parking.

 

[Scott W.]

I think "car park" will be higher on the list so the workers have a more available parking.

That's a good point. They're not going to be short of parking. Back of house parking is almost done and the hotel parking structure could be built in the next 6 months.

 

[Cup_Of_Coffee]

I think this is the order things will be done

Land Clearing
Utilities
Grading / Back of house - We are here
Foundations
Showbuildings
Coasters
Car Park
Hotel
Pathways
Ride Installation
Theming
Landscaping
Final Touches

There's obviously going to be a lot of overlap.

I find the whole project management fascinating for a project this size.

Yeah I’ve never seen a new park built outright really other than VB, but the scales are drastically different here. So fascinating to watch, even the land clearing for SNW recently is exciting to me. Any forward movement, makes me happy!

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Permits that may be related to it say it has a ride pit and chlorine tank. So, probably an attraction. That’s all we know, (and even that could be for a different building if we got the numbers crossed.)

Pretty sure that's the unique carousel.

And that's why they haven't publicly stated an opening year/date.

It's hitting late 2024 early 2025 for sure.

 

[Alicia]

Pretty sure that's the unique carousel.

Until I see any evidence, it could be a hoedown in that stained glass dome for all I know.

(But from my estimations, there doesn’t seem to be enough usuable space inside for a large theater show.)

 

[tommyhawkins]

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I have been under the impression that a Cirque du Soleil show would be included in the new resort long before we got any concept art. When I saw the art, the large round domed stained glass building seemed to be the logical place for it. Which would make sense with the rumored "open hub". After seeing the permit, I am even more confident that it is a Cirque show. Specifically a show kind of similar to "O" in Las Vegas. "O" has a Chlorine Room, an Acid Room, and Hydraulic Lifts mounted in "lift pits", and it's associated oil separator. Although, they use mostly bromide and a small amount of chlorine to keep the chlorine smell down in the theater.

Sadly as much as I would love a diving show at the park, we are likely getting a flat ride instead. Diving pools with moving floors similar to this and the House of Dancing Water in Macau require around 6metres of depth, to fit the pulley system in place. as Moveable floors actually are giant floats, that get pulled down under tension by cables and pulleys to the minimum 5 metres depth rather than lifts. you see an example of my workplace here:

 

[quinnmac000]

didn't someone post a video of a old carousel from france that would go into a water tank below?

 

[Cup_Of_Coffee]

I believe there’s also a small queue in the concept art? I definitely lean ride, at least for this specific location

Is it..... stupid to think, a Cirque Show could be done outside around the fountain, hotel, surrounding areas, as a parade/acrobat/firework type night show?

 

[OLSinFLA]

I can't imagine Disney being ok with a freebie Cirque show when they're charging $85-$185 a seat 10 miles away. I'm pretty sure there is some restrictions on a permanent show within a set distance..

 

[shiekra38]

didn't someone post a video of a old carousel from france that would go into a water tank below?

There is a chair swing in Phantasialand that has fountains that move with the ride. You don't get wet, the water stays just below you

Personally, I'm hoping we get one of these instead of a carousel, as these are far more fun

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There is a double decker carousel there as well with a nice aesthetic

If Universal were to attempt a hybrid of the two it could be interesting

 

[OhHaiInternet95]

There is a chair swing in Phantasialand that has fountains that move with the ride. You don't get wet, the water stays just below you

Personally, I'm hoping we get one of these instead of a carousel, as these are far more fun

POV




There is a double decker carousel there as well with a nice aesthetic

If Universal were to attempt a hybrid of the two it could be interesting

I highly doubt I ever go there but Phantasialand is proof that not everything needs to be an indoor dark ride (great as they are) for a park to have immersive.