Volcano Bay Construction & Preview Discussion

[Brian G.]

That's a good point... as a new park/water park, Volcano Bay deserves it's own section.

It will when the time is right. Right now, only sort of discussion is rumors and construction. Once we get more concrete info, I'll see how I'll set it up.

 

[NostalgiaExtreme7498]

the question is why not a third park? If Uni wants to compete with Disney and surpass them, I think building a 3rd park and being finished like in 2025 would be the best bet for Universal Orlando right now...don't you think UO has enough hotels already? Jezzzz

 

[GAcoaster]

Why build a third park when the two parks they have still need updates/upgrades all over (Kid Zone, Twister, T2, Disaster, TL Theater, Sinbad, Poseidon, etc). Better to have two GREAT arks than three with holes. Look at Disney...they have four parks with two parks worth of attractions between them (there are more attractions at DL and DCA than in all four of the Florida parks).

 

[JungleSkip]

the question is why not a third park? If Uni wants to compete with Disney and surpass them, I think building a 3rd park and being finished like in 2025 would be the best bet for Universal Orlando right now...don't you think UO has enough hotels already? Jezzzz

Passing Disney has NEVER been Universal's goal. In fact, Steve Burke has said many times that their goal is to carve out more market share, not become the king.

Why build a third park when the two parks they have still need updates/upgrades all over (Kid Zone, Twister, T2, Disaster, TL Theater, Sinbad, Poseidon, etc). Better to have two GREAT arks than three with holes. Look at Disney...they have four parks with two parks worth of attractions between them (there are more attractions at DL and DCA than in all four of the Florida parks).

Agreed all around. Not to mention the fact that having a resort that is completely walkable is much more valuable than needing transportation to wherever a third park would go.

 

[Mad Dog]

Passing Disney has NEVER been Universal's goal. In fact, Steve Burke has said many times that their goal is to carve out more market share, not become the king.



Agreed all around. Not to mention the fact that having a resort that is completely walkable is much more valuable than needing transportation to wherever a third park would go.

I strongly agree with you on that Skip. The fact that everything is so easily accessible when staying on site is perhaps the main reason (and there are a few other reasons like Hotel Express Pass, beautiful affordable hotel resorts, new immersive lands & attractions, Citi Walk) that we prefer Universal to WDW. It lends itself to a relaxing leisurely vacation experience.

 

[craigt]

Reminds me of the people here in Az who moved out by Luke AFB. It has been there for many years on its own. the city started spreading closer to it. Then BAM, idiots complaining about the noise of the jets. Im sorry, you were after.....not before. You KNEW it was there when you moved. So shut up.

A large organisatation I used to do some work for (a Fire Serivce) had workshops at their HQ for doing repairs/overhauls etc as well as storing reserve and specialist equipment.

They had their HQ there for maybe 30+ years, then a builder built some very high-end houses literally next door.
Within 3 months of people moving in, they were filing a lawsuit against the Fire Service for loud noises coming from the workshops during nightime hours and for sirens going off at all hours.

.....you bought a house next door to a Fire Station, WTF do you expect???!!!

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Alton Towers gets noise complaints which is nuts.

I think there's a reasonable expectation not to have your house rumble and destroy things after living next to somewhere for 25 years.

 

[Jon84]

Alton Towers gets noise complaints which is nuts.

I'm pretty sure most of the houses in the village of Alton were the Theme Park elements were added to the Estate. Especially by looking at them on Street View

 

[NostalgiaExtreme7498]

We will probably see a third park added to universal Orlando sometime before we all die lol. I can guarantee you that.

 

[ThemeParks4Life]

We will probably see a third park added to universal Orlando sometime before we all die lol. I can guarantee you that.

What if the apocalypse happens tomorrow?

 

[Parkscope Joe]

We will probably see a third park added to universal Orlando sometime before we all die lol. I can guarantee you that.

Don't think it's a guarantee, but who knows. If they expand to have two 1 1/2 day parks, then why add a third?

 

[ThemeParks4Life]

Don't think it's a guarantee, but who knows. If they expand to have two 1 1/2 day parks, then why add a third?

This applies to every decision Comcast makes.

 

[Parkscope Joe]

This applies to every decision Comcast makes.

Let me put it this way, a third park requires more infrastructure and casting. Add more attractions and keep them there longer, less overhead.

 

[Nick]

Let me put it this way, a third park requires more infrastructure and casting. Add more attractions and keep them there longer, less overhead.

Seems to be working out well money-wise for WDW (and DAK and DHS aren't even full day parks)...

If you only have the two parks, people still think they can get everything done in 2-3 days max and if not oh well. You need that third park to force people to stay longer. It forces the average guests to say "We have to go check out that new park at Universal while we're there!". Especially with Express. If you have that, you can get through BOTH parks in one day no problem right now.

Also, I don't think Comcast is worried about money too much at the moment (as long as they're making it)...

 

[Parkscope Joe]

Seems to be working out well money-wise for WDW (and DAK and DHS aren't even full day parks)...

It's not working for them. Increased spending on infrastructure, busses, and staffing has hurt the resort.

 

[Nick]

It's not working for them. Increased spending on infrastructure, busses, and staffing has hurt the resort.

First, see my edited version of the post, but anyway, I think WDW is doing pretty well for itself. Just because it has a lot of things that a necessary to run a theme park resort isn't a bad thing. I hope you aren't in charge anywhere as it seems you'd be cutting corners left and right...

 

[Teebin]

It's not working for them. Increased spending on infrastructure, busses, and staffing has hurt the resort.

Yeah, I get the sense that all of those thousands of acres, once touted proudly, have become a money drain with maintenance and transport.

Imagine instead that Epcot was built to the immediate west of the Grand Floridian, HS to the east of the Contemporary and Animal Kingdom built to the immediate south of the transport station. All of the grand hotel resorts in between. That would be one tight resort right there.

I am going to have to muck with that in photoshop.

 

[Nick]

Yeah, I get the sense that all of those thousands of acres, once touted proudly, have become a money drain with maintenance and transport.

Imagine instead that Epcot was built to the immediate west of the Grand Floridian, HS to the east of the Contemporary and Animal Kingdom built to the immediate south of the transport station. All of the grand hotel resorts in between. That would be one tight resort right there.

I am going to have to muck with that in photoshop.

If they did that, people would have shorter stays because they would get everything done quicker as it would be easier to get around.

A lot of the reason WDW is able to stretch people's vacations out is because of how spread apart things are and how poor the transport is. WDW makes insane amounts of money and attracts insane amounts of guests. To try to contend size is hurting them is reaching.

Size is what helps them as far as I see.

 

[Teebin]

If they did that, people would have shorter stays because they would get everything done quicker as it would be easier to get around.

A lot of the reason WDW is able to stretch people's vacations out is because of how spread apart things are and how poor the transport is. WDW makes insane amounts of money and attracts insane amounts of guests. To try to contend size is hurting them is reaching.

Size is what helps them as far as I see.

Then perhaps we can agree to call it a catch-22. That and corporate wanted to suck the property dry based on decades past investments without pouring money in. Plain ol greed.

 

[Mad Dog]

Then perhaps we can agree to call it a catch-22. That and corporate wanted to suck the property dry based on decades past investments without pouring money in. Plain ol greed.

It's the new corporate creed. Short term satisfaction. Lack of long term insight.